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    You can definitely do the stretch at head and foot and on both sides. Doesn't add much weight. Only true gram weenies need be concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abharris View Post
    Could you do this with a hammock like a WB traveler? Would this be the best way to make a foot and head box into a traveler? Just wondering. I don't really understand the design exactly but it looks like you could tailor any gathered end hammock to do this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knotty View Post
    I think so but haven't seen a Traveler up close to know for sure.

    In this thread I showed how to mod an existing hammock into a stretch-side, which is what you'd do to the Traveler.
    I would really like to see some one do the "Knotty stretch side mod" to a traveler. I'll bet it would really help with those loose areas.
    Heck you could take a $60 traveler and spend 15 minutes on the thread injector and have a $100 snipe with better straps and buckles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadrunnr72 View Post
    ...But if I am set up and laying one way and decide to switch...
    Now I'm wondering what you mean by "switch" and if I interpreted it correctly. Did you want to turn 180* in the hammock or switch your head/feet left to right?

    For turning 180* you just need one standard set of side tensioners. Changing from left to right might benefit from two sets as you suggest.

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    Did the mod to my new DIY hammock and also my WBBB. Both came out great. Sewed a tube (I placed mine on the sides centered) add shock cord and done. The WBBB only gets the treatment to the open side. The other side doesn't need it. Makes a huge difference and no more quilt, pillow, jacket. etc. falling out. It takes about 20 minutes to do a 2 side job and about 10 minutes for the blackbird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmcttr View Post
    Now I'm wondering what you mean by "switch" and if I interpreted it correctly. Did you want to turn 180* in the hammock or switch your head/feet left to right?

    For turning 180* you just need one standard set of side tensioners. Changing from left to right might ebenefit from two sets as you suggest.
    Yes , I find that most of the time my head is right and feet left, but sometimes head left, feet right.
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    I have spent the last couple of hours, adding 20 inches of 3/32 shock chord, with micro chord locks on one end, attaching it to a Warbonnet Traveler Single 1.7 at the foot end and opposite side, the head end taking up the slack in the hammock sides which has always annoyed me alittle. Attached to the hammock before beginning was a full length UQ 40 degree down made for me by Underground Quilts, and at each end I had already attached by hand sewing on some of Dutch's Quilt hooks for holding the hammock at each side end of it on all 4 corners of the quilt,, where it fit.

    What I did was take a large sewing needle that the end was hooked, and this needle was about 1/16th dia above the point of it, heated the needle and then gingerly poked/melted a hole in the side hem of the hammock about a half inch from where I had the quilt hooks attached. That took me about 15 minutes per hole, 2 holes each at the foot run and head run. Then I threaded the 3/32 shock chord thru the hem that warbonnet had made to the sides of the hammock feeding it thru for 20 inches and when I got the end out, then I threaded it thru the eye of Dutch's Quilt hook for the stopper, tied a knot in the end of the shock chord. At the other end of the shock chord attached a micro chord lock (3/32nd shock chord and micro chord locks gotten from Arrowhead Equipment) and each side works perfect in taking the slack up at the head and foot on each side of the hammock. I also hand sewed around each hole with a very small sewing needle and nylon thread thru the hem on one side and around also strengthening where I had made my melted hole for inserting shock chord. I have been in and out of the hammock for the last couple of hours stretching it every way crosslaying in it and no signs of wear anywhere where I melted the holes or in the hammock anywhere. I must say,,the Underquilt attached, and the sides pulled more taunt, gives me a better coverage and absolutely no quilt slippage as everything is attached at the end of the quilt, with a Dutch Quilt hook. The sides of the quilt are very conforming to the hamoock, and I have gotten rid of all the slack in the hammock, lay is equally the same as in the Traveler with nothing falling out, as I have a 50 degree TQ and pillow in the hammock and they are staying put. When I now get out of the hammock, the sides of it are equal to the top of the quilt from one end to the other end. I am very pleased with the results and will keep everybody posted as to the wear and tear of using Warbonnets seams along the hammock. However,,I see no bad vibes from doing this as long as your very careful with melting a hole in only one side of the small seam.
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    Here is 3 pics of what I just tried to describe on the foot end, head end is the same.
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    Looks good, Acer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acer View Post
    I have spent the last couple of hours, adding 20 inches of 3/32 shock chord, with micro chord locks on one end, attaching it to a Warbonnet Traveler Single 1.7 at the foot end and opposite side, the head end taking up the slack in the hammock sides which has always annoyed me alittle.

    Attached to the hammock before beginning was a full length UQ 40 degree down made for me by Underground Quilts, and at each end I had already attached by hand sewing on some of Dutch's Quilt hooks for holding the hammock at each side end of it on all 4 corners of the quilt,, where it fit.

    What I did was take a large sewing needle that the end was hooked, and this needle was about 1/16th dia above the point of it, heated the needle and then gingerly poked/melted a hole in the side hem of the hammock about a half inch from where I had the quilt hooks attached. That took me about 15 minutes per hole, 2 holes each at the foot run and head run.

    Then I threaded the 3/32 shock chord thru the hem that warbonnet had made to the sides of the hammock feeding it thru for 20 inches and when I got the end out, then I threaded it thru the eye of Dutch's Quilt hook for the stopper, tied a knot in the end of the shock chord. At the other end of the shock chord attached a micro chord lock (3/32nd shock chord and micro chord locks gotten from Arrowhead Equipment) and each side works perfect in taking the slack up at the head and foot on each side of the hammock.

    I also hand sewed around each hole with a very small sewing needle and nylon thread thru the hem on one side and around also strengthening where I had made my melted hole for inserting shock chord. I have been in and out of the hammock for the last couple of hours stretching it every way crosslaying in it and no signs of wear anywhere where I melted the holes or in the hammock anywhere.

    I must say,,the Underquilt attached, and the sides pulled more taunt, gives me a better coverage and absolutely no quilt slippage as everything is attached at the end of the quilt, with a Dutch Quilt hook. The sides of the quilt are very conforming to the hamoock, and I have gotten rid of all the slack in the hammock, lay is equally the same as in the Traveler with nothing falling out, as I have a 50 degree TQ and pillow in the hammock and they are staying put.

    When I now get out of the hammock, the sides of it are equal to the top of the quilt from one end to the other end. I am very pleased with the results and will keep everybody posted as to the wear and tear of using Warbonnets seams along the hammock. However,,I see no bad vibes from doing this as long as your very careful with melting a hole in only one side of the small seam.
    Excellent report Acer thanks for taking the time to write this up.

    I sold my traveler because I was not going to let my $$$.$$ TQ hit the ground again
    I sure hope Warbonnet guys starts offering the Knotty stretch side option
    or maybe 2QZQ could start doing this mod for those of us no longer allowed to use the family thread injector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutandBack View Post
    ...or maybe 2QZQ could start doing this mod for those of us no longer allowed to use the family thread injector.
    The "fix" for this is to get your own thread injector and not allow the family to use it.

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