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    Shoot, thanks for all the answers yo! One question - is 1.1 ripstop not strong enough to hold people? Aren't the single layer 1.1 WBBB's made out of 1.1, or is the name misleading me?

    Also, my current hammock (Grand Trunk Skeeter Beeter Ultralight) - not sure what it's made of. Some sources online say polyester taffeta, others say "parachute nylon." Either way, I like the material, but I also haven't really tried any other backpacking hammocks.

    Regarding the suspension I'm definitely in agreement that tree straps+whoopies is the way to go for light weight and easy adjustability, but I'm thinking about if I want to give hammocks to a bunch of friends - full whoopie sling suspension (or even just tree strap plus carabiner suspension) would add up pretty quick. I wondered if there's a cheaper option, even if lightness and adjustability are lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbphilly View Post
    Shoot, thanks for all the answers yo! One question - is 1.1 ripstop not strong enough to hold people? Aren't the single layer 1.1 WBBB's made out of 1.1, or is the name misleading me?

    Also, my current hammock (Grand Trunk Skeeter Beeter Ultralight) - not sure what it's made of. Some sources online say polyester taffeta, others say "parachute nylon." Either way, I like the material, but I also haven't really tried any other backpacking hammocks.

    Regarding the suspension I'm definitely in agreement that tree straps+whoopies is the way to go for light weight and easy adjustability, but I'm thinking about if I want to give hammocks to a bunch of friends - full whoopie sling suspension (or even just tree strap plus carabiner suspension) would add up pretty quick. I wondered if there's a cheaper option, even if lightness and adjustability are lost.
    I think whoopies/tree straps are your cheapest option.

    Yes - the "parachute" hammocks are made of taffeta.

    Also - 1.1oz should be alright as long as you aren't like 300lb

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    Is there a lighter hammock-worthy material than 1.1 ripstop? And, what are some good, simple ways to put asymmetric tie-outs on a hammock if I wanted to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbphilly View Post
    Is there a lighter hammock-worthy material than 1.1 ripstop? And, what are some good, simple ways to put asymmetric tie-outs on a hammock if I wanted to?
    I think they make 0.9oz ripstop but I am unsure if people use that for hammocks. That may be more for lightweight clothing.

    I think if you look around you'll find some hennessy and WBBB patterns around here that show how you can utilize tie outs in a design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljcsov View Post
    I think they make 0.9oz ripstop but I am unsure if people use that for hammocks. That may be more for lightweight clothing.

    I think if you look around you'll find some hennessy and WBBB patterns around here that show how you can utilize tie outs in a design.
    Indeed I saw one already. I could probably improve some others.

    I know nothing about fabrics right now but what do people think - would nylon lighter than 1.1 be sufficiently strong for a hammock? If not for everyone then what about for a light-ish person like me?

    Also, right now I'm trying to figure out a way to coordinate a structural ridgeline with an attached bug net. Obviously, Hennessy, Warbonnet and other manufacturers have a way to do it and I've seen one DIY solution (which I find kind of inelegant) but I'm kind of having fun trying to figure it out myself.

    Anyway, thanks for all the answers. Heading to sleep before too long here. In a bed, unfortunately.

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    ya, these things do get the brain juices flowing, don't they? i'm about to dive in to the diy deep end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbphilly View Post
    Indeed I saw one already. I could probably improve some others.

    I know nothing about fabrics right now but what do people think - would nylon lighter than 1.1 be sufficiently strong for a hammock? If not for everyone then what about for a light-ish person like me?

    Also, right now I'm trying to figure out a way to coordinate a structural ridgeline with an attached bug net. Obviously, Hennessy, Warbonnet and other manufacturers have a way to do it and I've seen one DIY solution (which I find kind of inelegant) but I'm kind of having fun trying to figure it out myself.

    Anyway, thanks for all the answers. Heading to sleep before too long here. In a bed, unfortunately.
    Personally, I'd think under 1.1oz would be a little too lightweight. Your best bet for durability/weight ratio would be 1.5oz. That is just me though.

    As for the bug net. You just need to put a zipper down one side and sew the no see um down the other. You will need to rig up something on either end near the knot that will allow you to sew in the bug net. Most people put a triangular piece of fabric there that allow for an easy bug net sewing point. The ridgeline needs to slide under the entire deal to keep the bug net up.

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    For your suspension, I think using straps all the way to the hammock would be the way to go, using some welded steel rings to cinch it.

    As easy as whoopies are, non-hammock people (friends & customers) are likely to have issues. Never over-estimate the common sense people have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jred View Post
    Never over-estimate the common sense people have.
    Bingo! For every aspect of life!

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