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    Why not consider and UQ instead of a pad to take away the bulkiness. You can also use a PLUQ which is much better than a pad, but not as warm, unless you add some insulation between the layers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaHanger View Post
    Why not consider and UQ instead of a pad to take away the bulkiness. You can also use a PLUQ which is much better than a pad, but not as warm, unless you add some insulation between the layers.
    I thought about the UQ but it's another $150-200. The cost is starting to add up quickly, lol. $175 lightweight hammock, $150-$200 for uq, $200-250 for tq, $75-125 tarp. It would be pretty sweet though to have a 4.25lbs sleep system though, just not sure if $600-$750 is worth it.

    Ideally I'd like to use my POE air mattress at like 50% inflation. That way I can still have a 10oz supersmall pad, don't have to spend any more $$ and still be comfortable should I be grounded . it doesn't look like an option though because the hh is single layer and my suspicion is that it would move around if i put it directly in the hammock (although I haven't tested it, but probably should)

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    You're running into the evil balance of lightweight vs inexpensive.

    You'll find that to go lighter, it typically starts to cost you more money.

    Frankly, you can go camping with a DIY hammock, wally blue pad, wally blue tarp, and a cheap sleeping bag. You'll find that it's all heavy and bulky...but cheap and effective.

    Some of the most durable, multi-use gear I've ever used has been military. But it's not lightweight at all.

    My solution was the HH explorer deluxe, HH hex tarp, and HH supershelter (it was on sale for $100 for the complete system). I just switched to whoopie slings, but don't figure that it's gonna be much savings in weight. I could go lighter...if I invested more in the lighter hammock, silnylon tarp, and a quality down UQ. Again...much more cost if that's the route I were to take. I'm comfortable with where I'm at.

    To shed pounds, you're probably going to have to shed dollars too.

    You just need to figure out the best balance on this that works for you.

    Have you tried compiling a gear list with weights, and looked for the areas you could get the most weight savings for the least cost investment?

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    If it were me, looking for lightweight, low-bulk, and low-cost, I would patch together a system. Hennessy is great, but it's a pre-built kit so there is only so much savings you can make on those three metrics.

    Hammock - I'd get a simple gathered-end variety like the Grand Trunk Ultralight, Trek Light, ENO, or similar brands. The GT Ultralight with Whoopies and straps is only 12 oz. and you can get the hammock for $20 or less.

    Tarp - Just use your Hennessy tarp for now!

    Insulation - Sleeping bag and pad work fine. You've got them. Use them.

    Bug Net - If bugs are a problem (this time of year, maybe not), splurge and get an ENO Bug Net for $50, or from any of the cottage manufacturers on the forum.

    You can save a lot of money with just a simple hammock, but your weight and bulk will drop significantly and your comfort will raise exponentially.

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    welcome to hf! my wb traveler 1.1 dl + whoopies is 19.5oz, the wbbb 1.1d + whoopies is 23.5oz and the grand trunk ul + whoopies is 10.5oz. hth!

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    You guys just blew my mind with some of these other options. 10.5 oz hammock?! I'm pretty decent with a sewing machine so I could make a bug sock on the cheap and have a ridiculously light system.

    I just bought the Grand Trunk UL for $12 shipped to my door. That's absurdly cheap.

    Would it be worth it to add a fixed or adjustable ridgeline to the GT?

    thanks for the input guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesergeant View Post
    You guys just blew my mind with some of these other options. 10.5 oz hammock?! I'm pretty decent with a sewing machine so I could make a bug sock on the cheap and have a ridiculously light system.

    I just bought the Grand Trunk UL for $12 shipped to my door. That's absurdly cheap.

    Would it be worth it to add a fixed or adjustable ridgeline to the GT?

    thanks for the input guys!
    That depends on your ability to get a comfortable hang...consistently.

    The purpose of the ridgeline is to ensure that you get the same amount of sag in the hammock body, every time.

    A ridgeline also gives you a place to hang an organizer from, drape the bug netting off of, etc...

    It's entirely up to you as to what your preference is.

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    papasmurf makes 1.8oz bugnets

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