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    The New NX-200 UPDATE and a bit long

    Okay everyone this is a bit long so bare with me. This is corespondence with spencer over a peroid of time say the past month I am home now and will be doing updates more often on the NEW NX-200 I have all summer off unless a nuclear turbine crashes.


    Hello again Spencer I have been working allot lately I have been
    working 16 hour shifts for the past month now with no days off and I
    have not gotten to go out and camp which at this present time is
    really getting to me a person needs time off to regenerate them
    self's.



    I was unaware of the outages that where about to start in the nuclear
    business for some reason it seems they all decided to do it at the
    same time because they are having a hard time finding men to work
    these outages.



    I have been able to put up the new Clark you sent me on three
    different occasions one of them was at work during our break of an
    hour launch. So I will start with that one, I set it up between two
    metal light poles and a guard railing and at first glance you could
    not tell much difference in the old N/A and the new N/A but boy was I
    surprised once in side I laid in my normal way and found that it was
    much easier than in mine there was not much shoulder squeeze with it
    and that was with out a pad or bag which I really thought there would
    be being a little bigger on the width. I only had about 45 minutes to
    lay in it so in that time I took allot of time just looking it over
    and laying in different positions and when my alarm went off I woke
    up and found that I was sleeping on my belly and didn't hurt a bit.
    In all the positions that I laid I found that none of them made my
    legs hurt nor did I need anything under them for support. I have
    showed several people the N/A at work and showed them how easy it is
    to get set up and that night I showed them how easy it was to go to
    sleep in it. After being on my feet and walking some 10 miles back
    and forth on concrete that 45 min break did me some good all though
    my foremen's thought I was losing my mind setting up a hammock for
    break I new that I would feel better at the end of break I only wish
    I could do that ever break.



    Second chance to hang was after work one morning we had a pretty easy
    night so I was not as tired as usual so I took the time to set it up
    at the hotel using my truck and a fence to hang from again it only
    took a few minutes to set it up and found my self asleep in it again
    only this time I slept all day at 5pm I woke thinking I had over
    slept and went to jump out and couldn't because I had the bug net
    zipped up and went to scrambling to get out of it and once I was out
    I realized I had not over slept but I did sleep all day now having
    said that it's a shame to pay for hotel room and not sleep in it but
    I must say that I slept better in the Clark then in the bed in the
    hotel. Again I started by lying in different positions and I have as
    of yet not found a bad one yet. In comparison to the older model of
    the N/A there are two place's that if I lay long enough that my knees
    start to hurt I am not sure that it is do to it being shorter or what
    but in the new model I have not had that problem at all.



    Third chance to hang was at hotel again I have had several people
    stop buy and ask what it was and what I was doing and a few of them
    were people who worked at the hotel they came out to tell me to move
    it off there fence so after taken it off the fence and using another
    worker friend of mines truck I was able to hang it from both trucks
    and I have not been able to put up rain fly for lack of place to hang
    it from so I have just been using the bug shield and the outer cover
    and this day some where between when I laid down in it and the time I
    got up it rain pretty hard and I stayed dry the whole time. I was not
    sure that not having a drip ring on the main line was such a good
    idea but evidently it make no difference on weather its there or not
    I still stayed dry. On all three occasions I have not had any pad or
    bag nor did I have a pillow I just had small throw guilt over me and
    that was it. Spencer I have tried in vain to find a bad way to lie
    and as of now I have not found one unlike the older N/A and I am
    starting to contribute this to the length of the hammock. Now I am
    not saying that the older is not good by any means because I have
    about 6 to 12 inches of room at foot end of it but this one being
    longer I think helps stretch the hammock out even more and give the
    person even more room.



    After three day of laying in the new one so far I am very impressed I
    would like to be able to put the two side by side and compare them
    and will when I get a chance to do so

    When I get home from Texas. I am very glad that I had my girlfriend
    FedEx it to my hotel down here I was starting to miss hanging and
    being outside. Now if I can only figure out a way to hang it in here
    in the hotel I will have it made.



    As for the temps and climate I have put it through the cold weather
    has left us again for another season at home so I will not have any
    cold weather to speak of but the rainy season is in full force as you
    might have seen on the T.V news. The Midwest is getting hit pretty
    hard with rains right now so most of this will be in night time temps
    of 50's or so and day time temps in the 70/80's and rain for the next
    month or so April showers brings may flowers is what they say.



    I should be home on the 25th of this month and have several weeks to
    try this out again before going back to work. There is no doubt that
    I will carry this hammock with me everywhere I go to work from now on
    it is a proven fact that I sleep better in it than I do in hotel bed.
    I may make a stand that I can put together easy out of square one
    inch tubing that I can carry in the back of my truck and put together
    either inside or outside the hotel. And I will carry some kind of pad
    and blanket with me as well.



    Texas temps were in the 50's and 70/80 as well but very little rain.
    Oh by the way the ocean breeze kept me cool all the time and the
    ocean air smelt better than the cool air conditioned room I was
    staying in.



    Well that is it in a nut shell you should be getting two orders from
    the men at work that are hunters for a camo regular N/A and one
    person at work is wanting a longer N/A.



    Thanks for the opportunity to try this out and to show it off for you
    all, I will continue to do more when I get home. I am kind of upset
    that I didn't get a chance to show it at mammoth cave but I am
    positive that more people saw it at South Texas Project Nuclear power
    plant than would have seen it at mammoth cave.



    It will be very hard to give this back to you all in the end. We have
    a saying in the dive business and that is " Create a Need " well you
    all have done that to me

    Put something like this in someone's hand and you do defiantly Create
    a Need such fine craftsman's ship in your product how could anyone
    seeing this product not want one.





    Stay tuned



    From Wadsworth Texas



    Patrick Dresser

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    Spencer
    >
    > All my questions are blue at the end of this.
    >
    > Just wanted to give you an update I had all last week to play with
    > the 200 and it is just fabulous I found that I have allot more room
    > in it than I did in the N/A. I have not bought straps for the 200
    yet
    > but will soon I bought two beeners Tuesday and will use them when I
    > get straps.
    >
    > Until then I just tied to tree's, I have to make some guyline
    > tensioners for it so I will be going to gander mountain to buy some
    > slingshot tubing tomorrow. Those work so well on my other one that I
    > want them on this one and I want to save the tarp in those big winds.
    > Anyway so far I can not find anything wrong with this new hammock as
    > hard as I have tried I have looked at the stitching of ever piece of
    > it including the stuff sack that you put in it someone said that
    > there's was not sewed on hardly at all on there N/A but that's just
    > not the case with this one.
    >
    > You all are right about the 200 rain fly being used on the N/A for
    > added length it would work wonderfully with it.
    >
    > You all sold a N/A to a friend of mine for his son's xmas present and
    > they keep telling me how much there son loves and uses the N/A in
    > fact the father came by last night to get the 200 from me to use he
    > is the one I have been telling you about who is taller and a bit
    > heaver. He took it down to the boy scout camp in Kentucky so there
    > should be a bunch of scouts and leaders down there looking at it for
    > the next 3 days. I will get a report from him when he gets back.
    >
    > I have a couple of question to ask of you without getting both out
    > are the insides of the N/A and the 200 made of same material seems
    > the 200 is a bit tougher and maybe thicker on what you would be
    > laying on?
    >
    > I cant help but wonder why you don't make cantenary curves in the
    > bottom of tarps it would help a bunch with the flapping in the wind
    > and would allow you to set tarp tighter I think. If you look at allot
    > of the tarps being made now they are goin to that type of cut on them
    > for that reason Kelty and a few other have started it as well as some
    > of the smaller companies out there. Like Speers and the MacCat that
    > Brian makes It would take up about 2 inches off each side but you
    > could make it longer to make up for that and would not stop the
    > performance of the tarp when closed up all the way just leave the
    > velcro on it and it would seal up just like before but add to the
    > silence without the flapping. People have in the past talked about
    > how short the tarps are and do not give allot of room under them to
    > sit under in chairs I have not found this to be true but I do allot
    > of reading where people are replacing your tarps for much larger ones
    > JUST A THOUGHT.
    >
    > Are you going to be making these in Camo incase someone asks me I
    > will be able to give them the right information.
    >
    > Some folks have wondered if you could order any of the hammocks with
    > out rainflys for a lesser amount and until I had heard that I never
    > thought about that but do you?
    >
    > What are the true measurements of the 200 and the N/A ?
    >
    > Spencer if you get some time would you go to the forum and answer a
    > few questions in there I have done my best but it might be better
    > coming from you and there is one in there I can't answer for you
    > about hammocks.
    >
    > Are you still planning on putting a link to the forum on your website?

    >
    > well that is it for now sorry for taken up your time and my rambles

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    Hi Pat,



    Thanks for the report.



    Here are some answers to your questions:



    1-We have gone with a new base material in the 200 because its better and lighter than what you have on your NA. Our strength tests have proved that the new base will put up with any abuse the old base takes, plus we believe it to be more mosquito resistant and were working with some labs to prove it.



    2-Good question. Weve been considering curves like you talk about and were working on some potential changes. Were working on some projects now that are more important than a big tarp, but its very likely youll see a giant tarp before the end of the year. Please let us know which tarps people are using on ours and well take a look and make sure the tarp we produce is at least as good.



    3- Our current policy is that you can order any hammock without a fly at a $50.00 discount. The fly is actually worth more than double that price, but we discount the fly when its purchased with a hammock.



    4- The inside length of the NA is 98 inches / width 44 in. The inside length of the 200 is 110 inches / width 50 inches.



    5- Please post at will.



    6- Sorry Ive been neglecting the forum lately a bit. Ill make sure and log on today.



    7- Yes, a link is coming. In the meantime Im sending a lot of people to the forum who call us etc.



    Thanks for all your help Pat

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    Well now what to do with the old NA I have? It sucks when something better comes out just a month after you buy a model.

    Good news for some of the larger folks though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by photomankc View Post
    Well now what to do with the old NA I have? It sucks when something better comes out just a month after you buy a model.

    Good news for some of the larger folks though.

    Well I am letting my son use not have use my N/A and anyone else who wants to use it. I now have three hammocks two of which are clarks and will take them everytime I go camping with someone so if they want they can use one.

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    Is this the thread you were referring to in your PM? I caught it on the Yahoo forums...I, personally, think you are having WAY too much fun! I can just imagine what people were thinking seeing a hammock attached to trucks outside a hotel...what a hoot! I love your posts but I must confess the lack of punctuation throws me for a loop...it must be those 16 hour shifts!

    I think many will be very attracted to this larger hammock...I know of no hammock where it is comfortable to sleep on you stomach...your review was quite good and I think very helpful...

    Now that cold weather camping is over we can look forward to hot weather testing...sometimes that can be as much of a challenge...ah-h-h, humidity!

    Remember to spit into your mask (or don't they do that anymore?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mataharihiker View Post
    Is this the thread you were referring to in your PM? I caught it on the Yahoo forums...I, personally, think you are having WAY too much fun! I can just imagine what people were thinking seeing a hammock attached to trucks outside a hotel...what a hoot! I love your posts but I must confess the lack of punctuation throws me for a loop...it must be those 16 hour shifts!

    I think many will be very attracted to this larger hammock...I know of no hammock where it is comfortable to sleep on you stomach...your review was quite good and I think very helpful...

    Now that cold weather camping is over we can look forward to hot weather testing...sometimes that can be as much of a challenge...ah-h-h, humidity!

    Remember to spit into your mask (or don't they do that anymore?)

    Allot of us still do spit into our masks. Punctuation's I am not very good at them or grammar for that matter I try tho and do the best with what I have in my brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cavediver2 View Post
    Punctuation's I am not very good at them or grammar for that matter I try tho and do the best with what I have in my brain.
    Oh well, I suck at diving...one thing we all share...we love to hang! It's amazing how much more relaxed I am after one night in my hammock...much better than the most expensive bed in any hotel...I think your review will really open some eyes as to what you can do when you want to...well done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by photomankc View Post
    Well now what to do with the old NA I have? It sucks when something better comes out just a month after you buy a model. .
    Dont I know it. kinda off topic, but a few months after I bought my Olympus E-500 DSLR, olympus decided to do som upgrading to their line and now we have the E-510. Kicked my self in the foot for that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost93 View Post
    Dont I know it. kinda off topic, but a few months after I bought my Olympus E-500 DSLR, olympus decided to do som upgrading to their line and now we have the E-510. Kicked my self in the foot for that one.
    I'm into digital photography too, there I just accept it mostly. They always release one 30 days after I buy. Always.

    I'm not really complaining I just know I'd be more comfortable in a longer hammock but I have no more dollars to commit to gear really so I'll just have to work with what I have. Just like my my camera didn't stop being useful when the next model came out my NA didn't stop being comfortable.

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    new guy here..ive been waiting for the new model to come out and now that it has, im excited and ready to buy one..my question is what else is on the horizon...did i see where a large tarp or newer tarp may be soon available? i dont want to fall into the category of buying something and then having a better model come out shortly later...
    im also new to hanging so this is an exciting ventuer for me...im 6'1, 235 lbs, side, stomach and back sleeper who usually carries too much gear when i camp...but going to start canoe camping and thought htis might help cut down on some gear space...
    any thoughts are welcome...
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grillmastertoo View Post
    new guy here..ive been waiting for the new model to come out and now that it has, im excited and ready to buy one..my question is what else is on the horizon...did i see where a large tarp or newer tarp may be soon available? i dont want to fall into the category of buying something and then having a better model come out shortly later...
    I'm totally talking out of my butt here . . .

    However . . . . I would think that the next few products will be "big and tall" versions of their other models (i.e. camo, tropical). Other than that, they'll probably release some accessories for the existing models.

    There has been talk of a new tarp on the horizon . . . but you can order your Clark hammock without the stock rainfly, and then just buy a Speer, McCat, or JacksRbetter tarp and not worry about it.

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