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    I feel the e trunks are safer than the dutch buckles/msh setups. The reason i switched over to the e trunks is for the way the hook holds the whoopie i feel it is less likely to slip off and out. Just my opinion on the systems.

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    Of the three you are asking about I think I like the Elephant trunks best but its only because I never liked scrunching and twisting webbing. There's no rhyme nor reason to it but I just like the webbing to stay flat. The lightest set up is the MSH with a trail stick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
    Of the three you are asking about I think I like the Elephant trunks best but its only because I never liked scrunching and twisting webbing. There's no rhyme nor reason to it but I just like the webbing to stay flat.


    My thoughts exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
    Of the three you are asking about I think I like the Elephant trunks best but its only because I never liked scrunching and twisting webbing. There's no rhyme nor reason to it but I just like the webbing to stay flat. The lightest set up is the MSH with a trail stick.
    when you use the dutch buckle the straps do stay flat
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTurtle View Post
    when you use the dutch buckle the straps do stay flat
    True, but they still get squished by the amsteel.
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    Its also a matter what some us feel gives a larger safety factor as some us hangers on on the heavy side. A setup that might be fine for my wife might not be for me (140# vrs 280#). Some of our hangers are close to 400#
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    and i can say this from experience, im just under 300# and Big Turtles bigger than me, and we both have D. Buckles. I also have trunks, and while I like them, I think the buckles are a faster setup (one less step needed, and you dont have to stuff the amsteel into the trunk on the buckle.) but were talking a second faster.

    I even use the Trunks for other things, like hanging a UQ or other gear since it has the hook.


    So end the end, I think you could go either way on these. I did do a review if you havent seen it kinda comparing the 2 http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=40384

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTurtle View Post
    just my 2 cents but i like the safty of the dutch buckles pluss the weight savings from an elephant is great and the weight gain from a toggle is minimal plus you get the extra security from the buckle vs the MSH and toggle again just my 2 cents
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    What he said
    Quote Originally Posted by sturgeon View Post
    What DID he say?
    1) Only his opinion.
    2) He likes the safety of the Dutch Buckles.
    3) The weight savings from an Elephant Trunk is great.
    4) Weight gain from a toggle is minimal.
    5) Buckle is more secure than a marlinspike hitch and toggle.
    6) Again, only his opinion.

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