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    has anyone tried multiple UQ's?

    I may be able to kill 2 birds with one stone here. In September, I took my 6 year old son on hist first backpacking overnighter, and naturally we both hung. He had a blast.

    It was my first night to try my new 3/4 40º Phoenix UQ, and I loved it. My son used my older thermarest setup (I know, I know, what kind if dad am I? Well, let me finish). The lows that night were barely in the 50's, so everyone was comfortable.

    Anyway, I was thinking. I chose the 40º 3/4 length UQ for warmer trips, maybe I should get another 40º full length UQ (Incubator). This way, my son can use the 3/4 length, and I can use the full-length on our seasonal outings together. Then, I can use both together for colder outings with my friends. I'd hope to get to 20º or so comfortably doubled-up like that.

    I mentioned this idea to my wife, and she didn't dismiss me completely, which is always a good sign

    Does anyone here use a similar setup? I'd probably have to ask for some extra width. Any thoughts?

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    I asked a similar question a few weeks ago, the general consesus was that they would work together, using the 3/4 over the top of the full length to avoid any air gaps between the layers.

    I should be testing the theory this weekend

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    Yep - lots of folks do that. I've done it several times. JRB's 4-season set comes with three quilts...you stack the Nest and NS on bottom, then use the ORM as a TQ. It's been sold that way since about 2004.

    The key is making sure the suspension system is flexible enough to ensure a good fit for all uses. E.g., putting two quilts on an elastic system designed for the weight of one quilt might result in a less-than-optimal fit. If you're using a partial quilt and a full-length quilt, you'll probably have two suspension systems...so you'll pay a weight penalty, but it should work fine.

    I'd put the partial-length on the bottom, and make sure it hangs loosely enough so it doesn't compress the full-length one. Otherwise, you'll probably have an air gap under your legs.
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    I have and I do....here is my friend Timmy using two of mine together this Friday in -1º temps. JRB Hudson River (green) against the hammock, my DIY Frankenquilt 3/4 UQ outside. Jacket over footbox for gauranteed warm toes....not wearing it anyways.
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    At the 2011 MRHO I had:
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    So, yes you can do multiple UQs. Next time I'll put the KAQ on the OUTSIDE, in tests at home after the MRRHO I was much warmer. My theory (supported by my at home tests) is at MRHO I thought that I was not compressing the KAQ, but after getting a bit chilled from below I suspect that I WAS. Therefore, be very aware of compressing your quilts between each other.
    My at home tests were only done at around 20 with only about 30 MPH winds, so I didn't get to test under full winter conditions, but I did notice a difference even then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelgrunt View Post
    Does anyone here use a similar setup?
    Jacks R Better pioneered nested UQs. It's a proven concept.

    I have nested a HH SS with a KAQ; a KAQ with a 50*F UQ; a Baby Orca IX UQ inside down; and a Snugfit inside a PeaPod. TZ nested two Snugfits. It works well!

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    I use 2 a 3 season inacubator and a DIY insultec quilt .
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    So many great responses- thanks all. I tried searching before I posted, but didn't find anything. I'll go back now and try the term "nesting" to see what else I can find.

    I was thinking about using the full length closest to me, then the 3/4 on the outside to minimize the potential gap, but I see recommendations up there to try the other way. I see a need to experiment now, which just means more hang time(!).

    Thanks all for confirming my theory.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelgrunt View Post
    I was thinking about using the full length closest to me, then the 3/4 on the outside to minimize the potential gap, but I see recommendations up there to try the other way. I see a need to experiment now, which just means more hang time(!).
    Nope - I think you had it right. Full-length against the hammock, and partial UQ outside of that. IF you can do that without compressing the full-length.
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    I have an Incubator that I bought last year and a Phoenix that I just got from the black friday sale. I plan on "nesting" them on a campout if Feb. Maybe sooner!!!
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