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    JRB 8x8 vs. Speer 8x10

    I'm considering the JRB and the Speer tarps as an upgrade to my HH ULBA. The trade-offs seem to be the lighter weight and simpler set-up of the JRB versus the bigger coverage and versatility (for use as a regular tarp) of the Speer. Can experienced users of these tarps comment on: coverage in heavy, wind-blown rain re: protection of underquilts; and their reasons for choosing one over the other? Thanks.
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    Fishbone,

    I just started using the JRB tarp. I had been using a rectangular.

    My own reasons for switching:

    The rectangular was great, BUT- not only was it heavier, it seemed to catch the wind more, and I've had a couple experiences where, when it was VERY windy, it caught the wind too much and a couple times some of the stakes were torn out. (NOT fun at 3am in the pouring, blowing rain!)

    Also, I had more to deal with fighting the sag on the rectangular.

    This past weekend I hung out with the JRB in the pouring, blowing rain.
    While I did have condensation spraying me when the wind whipped the tarp,(which I think I could have prevented some of by pitching differently)
    I found the JRB to have excellent coverage- it kept out the blowing rain VERY nicely.

    If I were to need to go to ground, the JRB can be pitched in a flying diamond type set up, giving you good coverage as well.

    Just my 2 cents,
    Perkolady

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    Thanks, Perkolady. Your comments are worth at least $1.50 to me! I'm leaning toward the JRB. Based on your comments, I might investigate a custom 9x9 like Neo's SG tarp, but in silnylon. That might take off 1/2 lb. over the coated PU used on the SG.
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    The problem with a 9x9 from silnylon is finding fabric wide enough to make it in two panels. A small triangle sewn to each side is an easy fix, though.
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    Here is a link to a site that offers 72" wide sil. I haven't tried it for myself though.

    http://www.owareusa.com/
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    Thanks, H.E. looks interesting and I'm just cranking up the sewing machine for some projects!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FishBone View Post
    Thanks, H.E. looks interesting and I'm just cranking up the sewing machine for some projects!
    Careful with that. I got my sewing machine out last week and haven't put it away yet. Although I now have a hammock, 4 stuff sacks, hammock sock, snake skins, and bug bivy that I did not have before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FishBone View Post
    I'm considering the JRB and the Speer tarps as an upgrade to my HH ULBA. The trade-offs seem to be the lighter weight and simpler set-up of the JRB versus the bigger coverage and versatility (for use as a regular tarp) of the Speer. Can experienced users of these tarps comment on: coverage in heavy, wind-blown rain re: protection of underquilts; and their reasons for choosing one over the other? Thanks.
    i had a jacksrbetter tarp 8x8 not a true measurement more like not much more than 7x7.i got rid of that tarp over a year ago neo

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    Quote Originally Posted by FishBone View Post
    Thanks, Perkolady. Your comments are worth at least $1.50 to me! I'm leaning toward the JRB. Based on your comments, I might investigate a custom 9x9 like Neo's SG tarp, but in silnylon. That might take off 1/2 lb. over the coated PU used on the SG.
    the 9x9 guide gear camo tarp may wiegh more but it is larger and cost almost 50 buck less and is a much better made tarp,i got rid of my jrb tarp over a year ago with no regrets neo

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    Neo is always knocking the JRB 8x8. I've never had any problems with mine. The weight is great and the construction has held up well. Even so, JRB recently made a change to their construction so they use heavier thread, don't get loose stitches, and I think it's a double-needle machine so the parallel seams should truly be parallel. I have one of their new stuff sacks and it makes a difference in appearance at least...but I never had a problem with their construction so I can't say if it really makes a difference there. I assume the new tarps are made this way as well. I hope Pan will correct me if I'm wrong.

    I don't remember the exact measurements for my JRB, but I think it was closer to 7'6" than 7'. And I can't argue on the price...the SG is cheaper. That's why it's heavier. Just a personal preference on whether you're willing to pay more for a few ounces out of your pack.

    I have a write-up of the JRB on my page if you're interested.

    I've never used a Speer 8x10 so I can't comment on that. But I alternate between the JRB and MacCat for my trips...if the JRB suits your style, it's an excellent piece of gear.

    Another note - I designed the pack cover JRB sells so I have a business relationship with them. It stops at the cover, though - I don't have any interest in their tarps other than as a satisfied user. Use that to interpret my above comments if you think it makes a difference.
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