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    Question Is lash-it strong enough for ASR?

    Is lash-it strong enough for ASR? That is my question and if so is there a DIY somewhere on making a ASR (Adjustable Structural Ridgeline)?

    Oh and I have the 1.75mm, well it's coming anyway.
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    As long as you aren't stringing things guitar-string tight, Zing-It/Lash-It is plenty strong.
    And ASR is just a whoopie that's mostly non-adjustable.
    If a regular whoopie looks like this:
    C>---=====================)
    Then an ASR might look more like this:
    C>-----------------------======)
    If that makes any sense.

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    Now to figure out how to do the whoopie thing lol... ya know the rope inside the rope trick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desiel View Post
    Is lash-it strong enough for ASR? That is my question and if so is there a DIY somewhere on making a ASR (Adjustable Structural Ridgeline)?

    Oh and I have the 1.75mm, well it's coming anyway.
    In normal and proper use a structural ridgeline will carry less that 150 lbs of force, and Lash-It is well up to that. I've used it.

    To make it adjustable, what you need is an adjustable loop at one end of it. Variety of ways you can accomplish this. Probably the easiest (but not the lightest) is to get a Dutch biner or small steel ring. First wrap the ridgeline cord around the device 3-4 times, and then do a semi-permanent tie-off of the working end to the device. The length of cord between where it exits the wrap and where it reattaches to the device is your adjustable loop. When the cord is not under tension you can slide the device one way or the other to adjust the length.

    A picture is worth a thousand words, and a video is worth thousands of pictures. The technique just described is used for hammock suspension, starting at about 1:12 here, where you see the ring wrapped (under "Truckers Hitch") and then see you can slide the ring "Sliding Ring".
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    Thanks Grizz but I think I wanna try to make the one that is like the whoopie.
    Here are my questions:
    What do people use to pull the line through it's self?
    How long should the bury (I think that's what it's called) be?
    and any other pointers I may need lol

    I thought there might be a DIY on this some where but I couldn't find it.
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    Grizz beat me to it, but here's a rough drawing.
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    Thanks Papa that picture makes sense to me but how long should the bury be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desiel View Post
    What do people use to pull the line through it's self?
    How long should the bury (I think that's what it's called) be?
    I use an piece of steel wire sharply bent in half. Others report good results with guitar string, stripped lengths of cat5 networking cable, etc.

    I've never had a 4" bury slip. Others may have different recommendations.

    EDIT: To explain adjustment measurements.
    Helps my little smurf mind to think of it this way.
    I always start with my desired length and place a mark on the ridgeline. (say 100" for a 120" hammock)
    The distance from the bury to this mark is the amount of the MIN adjustment. (4" away = 4" smaller)
    The length of the tail needs to be twice the MAX adjustment. (8" tail = 4" bigger)
    Your ridgeline will be adjustable from 96" to 104" with 100" being centered.
    Last edited by PapaSmurf; 01-10-2012 at 14:25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desiel View Post
    Thanks Grizz but I think I wanna try to make the one that is like the whoopie.
    Here are my questions:
    What do people use to pull the line through it's self?
    How long should the bury (I think that's what it's called) be?
    and any other pointers I may need lol

    I thought there might be a DIY on this some where but I couldn't find it.
    This is the definitive and original tutorial on whoopie slings use on hammocks, that I think can fairly said to have ignited the craze. In my opinion SloBro belongs in the HF legend book because of this post.

    Now there's no way you're going to get a yarn needle through LashIt, your only hope is bent wire. I have used one of the lighter guitar strings. The main procedural difference between what SloBro shows and what you'd do is to push the bent end of the wire through the bury to where it catches the (tapered) end, thread it, and then PULL the cord through. In the SloBro tutorial you PUSH the threaded needle through the bury.

    Most of the mark-up stuff in the tutorial you can ignore.

    For an ASR I'd want a loop that gives me 6 or 9 inches to add or subtract from a baseline length of 83% of the hammock length. That means a loop that can be as long from bury to loop end as 1.5', so I would mark the beginning of the bury at about 3.5' from one end of the cord, use a 4" bury, pull it through and tie a stopper knot on the end.
    Last edited by GrizzlyAdams; 01-10-2012 at 22:40.
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    I use stainless steel leader wire, doubled over. It is .029", i believe.
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