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    SGT Rock Always love your videos. So informative. I always have difficulty getting that rope over that tree limb.
    Sometimes I like to hike and think, And sometimes I just like to hike.

    Hiking is'ent about waiting for the storm to pass its about learning to hike in the rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazy river road View Post
    SGT Rock Always love your videos. So informative. I always have difficulty getting that rope over that tree limb.
    I'm waiting for Dutch, or someone, to invent the titanium rope launcher to toss that line over the branches. Wouldn't that be cool! I'd promise to only use it for bear bagging purposes. Never to shoot things at lazy hammockers trying to sleep in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey View Post
    I'm waiting for Dutch, or someone, to invent the titanium rope launcher to toss that line over the branches. Wouldn't that be cool! I'd promise to only use it for bear bagging purposes. Never to shoot things at lazy hammockers trying to sleep in.
    Would'ent be the first time you woke me up in the morning ICE CREAM

    But yes a ti rope bear launcher would be awesome. Whatcha say Dutch???
    Sometimes I like to hike and think, And sometimes I just like to hike.

    Hiking is'ent about waiting for the storm to pass its about learning to hike in the rain.

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    Thank you SGT Rock !

    Using the PCT bear bag method next week on my AT section hike in New Jersey.

    Love the addition of the bone knot (s). Have a full size DutchBiner that I always carry as backup.

    Tomorrow I will practice using two bone knots as suggested.

    Have had good results with the throwing about 60% of the time ( with much laughter ); have asked my husband, who is excellent with projectiles ( balls, darts ) for some coaching.



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    Did a practice PCT bear bag hang with ( full size ) Dutch Biner and 2 bone knots today.

    Very effective.

    Thanks again SGT Rock ! !





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    No problem

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    Hey Sarge .. I used one of Dutch's Ti biners after seeing you use it .. I had my line slip past the keeper a few times when hauling up quite a load .. I had 8 days food at one point .. have you had this happen .. it's inconsequential just have have to re-do it .. what I like about the smaller biner is your "spike" doesn't pass through the biner .. a real PTA .. I use a cut aluminum spike and a clove hitch .. not to bad to tie and really simple to release as the " spike" slides right out .. I really like the addition of the bonz .. sweet video too ..
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    I've not experienced anything like that. Next hike I'm going to try something slightly different using two rings made from PVC. It might be as easy as the bone knot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G...Hawk View Post
    Did a practice PCT bear bag hang with ( full size ) Dutch Biner and 2 bone knots today.

    Very effective.

    Thanks again SGT Rock ! !

    UPDATE :

    Ten times OK using this method of full size DutchBiner with BoneKnot with PCT method.

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    On a heavy rain and wind night the BoneKnot jammed into the slot of the DutchBiner. ( BearBag had to be cut down with knife lashed to pole. )


    ( Because of the extreme wind, looped the hanging end around a thin branch to keep it from being tossed high into the air out of reach.
    That may have made a difference, but the thin twig was not broken overnight. )




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    Great ideas on improving the PCT method. However and this is only my opinion and through my experiences I may have an easier way.

    I have been using the PCT method for about 8 years now and with some of my own modifications, I have never had a problem with the bag being to low or falling to the ground because of weight (3 days worth of food for 3 people and three dogs)

    Here is what I use...
    Waterproof bag (3.7oz) - helps keep out the elements and keep the smell in
    40' reflective guy line (32g) - slides nice on the trees and makes it real easy to see at night
    #3 25lb metal S biner (14g)
    #1 5lb metal S biner (4g) - the small second S biner works to help keep the line away from itself as you haul your food bag up the tree

    I am beginning to become a gram weenie so I will be tinkering with a much lighter materials setup.


    But anyways back to what works for me

    1. Throw line over the tree branch
    2. Attach food bag to biner
    3. Pull food up the tree (use a stick to help)
    4. Reach way up the line,
    5. Tie your clovehitch around the small stick, but leave a small loop at the bottom instead of running it through (this allows the clovehitch to essentially become a slip knot)
    6. Gather your rope, tie it up with your food or leave X amount hang
    7. Leave a loop at the end of your rope
    8. Find a stick that is long enough to reach the loop in the morning
    9. In the morning pull the loop with your stick.
    10. Clovehitch pops out, small stick goes flying, bag falls to the ground, voila (I hope that's how you say it), done!

    Hope this helps (and makes sense!)

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