I finished my hammock. It's 11.5' long and about 58" wide. It's based on Risk's Z-hammock. I think I'm getting the hang of the sag thing. It works well with a blue pad. I had tried my version of the Speer's segmented pad extender in between the layers but it was slick enough that it moved around to much. I used just the pad and it worked much better. I whipped the ends and it worked well. Now all I need is a tarp and bugnet!