No trees? No problem!

[SanAntoneTY]

thats how I stake out my hikin poles if I have no trees works great but like ya said aint as comfy

[Gobsh]

Would you recommend using that material as a frequent-use groundsheest when bivying in a non-waterproof hammock?

[Lost_Biker]

Would you recommend using that material as a frequent-use groundsheest when bivying in a non-waterproof hammock?

As long as it's not bad weather - heavy rain/snow. etc. I've only had to use it a few times myself and it worked just fine. I met an English tourer on my first tour who used this method quite often on his trip across the USA - He wasn't allowed to hang in the State Parks or campgrounds. I usually carry a piece of cheap tarp with me if I have to go to ground.
I did it in cold weather (this thread) but there was no rain or snow. My BlackBird hammock isn't waterproof, but I do also have a waterproof under cover I've recently made. It weighs less (about 7 ounces) than the tarp and comes up fairly high on the sides even when in "on the ground mode".

[Gobsh]

Thanks for the info LB - slowly getting an idea of how to set up my first hang. However, don't you find condensation/sweat a problem in the waterproof undercover? That's one of the main reasons I want rid of my current ground setup.

[Lost_Biker]

Thanks for the info LB - slowly getting an idea of how to set up my first hang. However, don't you find condensation/sweat a problem in the waterproof undercover? That's one of the main reasons I want rid of my current ground setup.

Only when it's hot - then I don't use the under cover. In the cold it acts as a windbreak and also as a splash guard. The top is open in the summer with just a bug net. If I have my top cover on I may have a little condensation from my breath moisture, but the condensation is always on the top cover, not my hammock. Lightweight breathable materials are great for top covers and socks. You can use a DWR (Durable Water Resistant) material for the bottom cover and it will still breath some. Body heat still gets trapped inside but it doesn't get stuffy inside. Good for 5-10 extra degrees.