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    Dutch clip for big guys?

    So I'm currently using carabiners on my tree straps but would like to swap to Dutch Clips. The issue is I'm over the weight limit listed on Jacks R Better. Is there hope for us big guys.

    I know the better solution would be to get a treadmill but that's not going to happen just yet.

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    I just use climbing rated lightweight carabiners

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    If the clip is positioned opposing the liner force you'll be fine .. the clip needs be behind the tree or to the side so that the strap passes back across the clip allowing the strap to have contact with the tree .. on smaller diameter trees a few wraps essentially forming half hitches so the clip prevents the tail from unraveling .. Dutch's clip are much easier on the straps
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    The weight rating is a safety factor. IIRC Dutch tested them to 1000lbs. As long as they are seated properly when load is applied you'll be fine. If the webbing is not all the way on and is only at the tip, then there is a chance of braking. That of course goes for any equipment, not just Dutchware. Keep in mind, the friction of the tree straps on the tree also take some load off the clips.

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    Senior Member Adarack's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Papi View Post
    I just use climbing rated lightweight carabiners
    Thats exactly what I do now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Wolf View Post
    If the clip is positioned opposing the liner force you'll be fine .. the clip needs be behind the tree or to the side so that the strap passes back across the clip allowing the strap to have contact with the tree .. on smaller diameter trees a few wraps essentially forming half hitches so the clip prevents the tail from unraveling .. Dutch's clip are much easier on the straps
    That makes good sense...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
    The weight rating is a safety factor. IIRC Dutch tested them to 1000lbs. As long as they are seated properly when load is applied you'll be fine. If the webbing is not all the way on and is only at the tip, then there is a chance of braking. That of course goes for any equipment, not just Dutchware. Keep in mind, the friction of the tree straps on the tree also take some load off the clips.

    BTW, love your avatar.
    So I'm guessing then that these will be fine for a working load of around 300lbs? I'm about 290 on a good day but hoping to shrink a little this season. Glad Dutch tested them to 1000lbs makes me more comfortable giving them a shot.
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    I am heavier and I've used the dutch clips on one inch straps (I stay away from nylon, climbing, or slap straps, only good quality polyester). I have had my my motorcycle gear, water and some other stuff hanging from a secondary ridge line clipped in as well. No problem. [I am switching to 2"inch straps, though, after feeling bad for the trees (also works better on slippery poles).] I found it easier after I sewed in the hooks. Keeps them from rotating and, more importantly, falling out.

    I've also weight tested Marlin Spike Hitch and, and I've had no problem as long as the whoopie is on the knot. I am also weight testing the dutch hooks now. So far the dutch hooks aren't straining on the weight, and they are a thing to marvel.

    BlackWolf: I am not sure what it meant by having the hook behind the tree. I've always clipped into the hammock side of things. My experience is the straps will rotate to this position when they are anywhere else (at least under my load), and take some bark with it. Picture?
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    Agreed, sew 'em in and they stay in "proper" position. Plus Dutch has designed all of the newer models to stay in place without being sewn in as an extra precaution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dant8ro View Post
    Agreed, sew 'em in and they stay in "proper" position. Plus Dutch has designed all of the newer models to stay in place without being sewn in as an extra precaution.
    It's funny that you chimed in. I kind of thought you would
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    lol, is that so. I still love my dutch clips.

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