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    Smile Dutch Buckle vs. Whoopie Hooks

    I just bought my 1st hammock (Grand Trunk UL - it's cheap and light) and need a system to hang it. Went to Gander Mountain today and spent $20 on some ENO Slap Straps. They came in a nice sack but are 12 oz. They seemed to bulky/heavy to me so I returned 'em - same day. I was wondering what I'd do next to figure this out and tapped into the power of Google, which led me to this forum.

    I'm trying to get educated in effective hammock use and have been checking out Dutch's offerings. I understand how his Dutch Buckle and Whoopie Hook systems both work, but I don't see the advantage one has over the other. They are similarly priced and lightweight, so does anyone have any advice???

    Thanks in advance!

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    Hello and welcome!

    The Dutch buckle allows detachable connection between the whoopie slings and the webbing. The Dutch hook allows a detachable connection between the whoopie sling and the continuous loop on the hammock. Both of these can be used in the same suspension system. For example:

    Hammock end--->continuous loop--->Dutch hook--->whoopie sling--->Dutch buckle--->webbing

    People like having these detachments for different reasons. Some like having their suspension completely separate from their hammock so they have the continuous loop on the hammock end. Personally it gives me the option to switch up suspensions. Not that is it necessary but many here like to fiddle and experiment.

    Some only want their webbing separate to avoid getting sap on their hammocks when packed up so they forgo the continuous loop and connect the whoopie slings directly to the hammock.

    Others have all in one systems where everything is all attached for simplicity and to avoid leaving any part of their suspension behind while packing up (it happens)

    Ultimately, there are many ways to do things. Check out the sticky threads in the suspension forum especially Grizz's 3 part video series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
    Hello and welcome!

    The Dutch buckle allows detachable connection between the whoopie slings and the webbing. The Dutch hook allows a detachable connection between the whoopie sling and the continuous loop on the hammock. Both of these can be used in the same suspension system. For example:

    Hammock end--->continuous loop--->Dutch hook--->whoopie sling--->Dutch buckle--->webbing

    People like having these detachments for different reasons. Some like having their suspension completely separate from their hammock so they have the continuous loop on the hammock end. Personally it gives me the option to switch up suspensions. Not that is it necessary but many here like to fiddle and experiment.

    Some only want their webbing separate to avoid getting sap on their hammocks when packed up so they forgo the continuous loop and connect the whoopie slings directly to the hammock.

    Others have all in one systems where everything is all attached for simplicity and to avoid leaving any part of their suspension behind while packing up (it happens)

    Ultimately, there are many ways to do things. Check out the sticky threads in the suspension forum especially Grizz's 3 part video series.

    Solid breakdown Bubba!
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    The ENO Slap straps have a habit of streaching so be prepared to end up on the ground if you are using them. Look for polyester straps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
    Hello and welcome!

    The Dutch buckle allows detachable connection between the whoopie slings and the webbing. The Dutch hook allows a detachable connection between the whoopie sling and the continuous loop on the hammock. Both of these can be used in the same suspension system. For example:

    Hammock end--->continuous loop--->Dutch hook--->whoopie sling--->Dutch buckle--->webbing

    People like having these detachments for different reasons. Some like having their suspension completely separate from their hammock so they have the continuous loop on the hammock end. Personally it gives me the option to switch up suspensions. Not that is it necessary but many here like to fiddle and experiment.

    Some only want their webbing separate to avoid getting sap on their hammocks when packed up so they forgo the continuous loop and connect the whoopie slings directly to the hammock.

    Others have all in one systems where everything is all attached for simplicity and to avoid leaving any part of their suspension behind while packing up (it happens)

    Ultimately, there are many ways to do things. Check out the sticky threads in the suspension forum especially Grizz's 3 part video series.
    Very nice explanation. Well done.

    As Bubba said, Grizz's video speak well of the suspension options available out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2TallWv View Post
    Solid breakdown Bubba!
    Quote Originally Posted by SoundWitness View Post
    Very nice explanation. Well done.

    As Bubba said, Grizz's video speak well of the suspension options available out there.
    Hey thanks!

    To the OP, its good you returned the Slap Straps because they stretch. Also forgot to mention that having the detachable suspension allows you to use the same suspension on different hammocks.
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    I like them both. Hooks are lighter and buckles are more adjustable. So it depends on what is more important to you.
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    Thanks!

    Thanks everyone for the quick responses! I was glad to return the ENO straps since they cost as much as my $20 hammock. Now I'll probably end up spending 2x that amount, unless I try to make some of the stuff on my own -- not usually my thing!

    I got the inexpensive hammock as a backup option for when AT shelters are full, but based on the excitement here I might be using it all the time!

    I'll be sure to check out the mentioned videos, too.

    Thanks again!

    Jason

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    It also can be nice to have the option to remove the whoopie slings entirely if the span between your trees requires using only your straps and continuous loop on the hammock.

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    I have them both. I love Dutch Buckles, but I'll tell you, Whoopie Hooks are the bomb! Fast, light, easy, and built-in drip protection to keep you dry in the rain. You can't go wrong with either one, but I recommend the hooks.

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