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    Tree not available, but a shrub is

    One regular spot for me offers a fine 10" pear tree;, but the only tree within 30 yards /meters is a shrub 4 yards /meters away.

    This shrub, recently bloomed, (magnolia ?) has four 21/2 " limbs sprouting from a common sourceat the ground, each coming out about 15 degrees from vertical and splayed to four corners so that at 6 feet / 2 meters, the trunks are about 1 yard / meter apart.

    I have taken to tying / chaining three of them tightly together with 1" brown polyester strapping. Then I use one of the trunks at one end of the hammock.

    Comment from a horticulturist? Or an arborist who calls that shrub a tree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemostiX View Post
    One regular spot for me offers a fine 10" pear tree;, but the only tree within 30 yards /meters is a shrub 4 yards /meters away.

    This shrub, recently bloomed, (magnolia ?) has four 21/2 " limbs sprouting from a common sourceat the ground, each coming out about 15 degrees from vertical and splayed to four corners so that at 6 feet / 2 meters, the trunks are about 1 yard / meter apart.

    I have taken to tying / chaining three of them tightly together with 1" brown polyester strapping. Then I use one of the trunks at one end of the hammock.

    Comment from a horticulturist? Or an arborist who calls that shrub a tree?
    Not a horticulturist, but I have had magnolias in the yard, have trimmed them, and have seen 70 lb boys break 2 inch magnolia limbs by climbing on them. Magnolias are kind of brittle. I don't think I'd trust three 2 1/2 inch magnolia limbs to support me.
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    Any dead tree trunks laying around. You could bushcraft a bi-pod and anchor to the shrubs base?
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    Disappointed and amazed

    Bump here, until I measure and report the lateral deflection. which is minimal after the limbs are securely tied together in tension.

    But, so far: This is more dangerous than a dead trunk; and as dangerous as one's child falling from trees? From a group that collectively flouts the 11 or 15 to 1 safety factor for human suspension in selecting cordage?

    And no engineers?

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    I sometimes hang from good-sized mountain laurel bushes. They can be 12 to 15 feet tall and their trunks might be as big as my upper arm. My fears are allayed by the (lack of) movement in the trunk when I get in the hammock. They deflect a few inches, but that's more a problem of comfort: it's hard to get the right hanging tension, because you don't know how it's going to hang with weight in it. More trial and error than a typical hang usually solves this.

    That's not to say that this type of anecdotal data proves anything. But, you're not alone. That's all I can add to this (not much, I know!)
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    Deflection measured

    I confess to hanging for over 100 nights from a lesser configuration, maybe not so different from yours --depends on the size of those upper arms -- until I realized that two lengths of recycled seatbelt, each tied from the hanging trunk to a point diagonally lower to one of the other trunks would brace, stiffen, and make set-up easier.

    Lateral deflection of the hanging strap following bracing, with 170lb in the hammock was just measured at 1/2" ~12mm.

    Good enough for me for the spare pair of tree straps in the trunk to be a little longer, and another reason to have extra cordage.

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    ADDED: The collective "trunk" at ground level from which the several near-vertical boughs emerge is 10". So this thread has not been on my experience of hanging from a tied-together girder of multiple-saplings. That's a 10" trunk and the root structure that supports it that all the forces go to it in the setting here.

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    But, we'd benefit from someone posting an analysis of that configuration of mulitple saplings.

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