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    Senior Member Pipsissewa's Avatar
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    Don't want to highjack your thread, Badchef, but no discussion of triangle thingies can be complete without a mention of SCUM's brilliant adjustable-in-the-hammock underquilt suspension design:



    It uses cordage, four prussik knots on the ridge line for adjustability, and mini carabiners all in place of material, shock cord and cord locks of the triangle thingies. Just my opinion, but I think it works great, is infinitely adjustable from the hammock and saves weight. Just thought you might have missed this when Scum first posted. Good luck!
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    SCUM's approach is definitely versatile, but is limited to netless hammocks, if I understand it correctly.

    Here in Florida, we treat bugnets like we do American Express - we don't leave home without it!
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    Senior Member Pipsissewa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD777 View Post
    SCUM's approach is definitely versatile, but is limited to netless hammocks, if I understand it correctly.

    Here in Florida, we treat bugnets like we do American Express - we don't leave home without it!
    HA! Good point. It'll work on a hammock with a detachable bug net. But you're right. I don't see how it would work on a hammock with an integrated bug net.
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    I Like SCUM!

    Pips,

    I did miss this! It is exactly what I am looking for. THANKS!

    I don't have an integrated bug net, it hangs outside, separately.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pipsissewa View Post
    Don't want to highjack your thread, Badchef, but no discussion of triangle thingies can be complete without a mention of SCUM's brilliant adjustable-in-the-hammock underquilt suspension design:



    It uses cordage, four prussik knots on the ridge line for adjustability, and mini carabiners all in place of material, shock cord and cord locks of the triangle thingies. Just my opinion, but I think it works great, is infinitely adjustable from the hammock and saves weight. Just thought you might have missed this when Scum first posted. Good luck!
    There are very few problems we can solve ourselves, but there is almost nothing we cannot solve together.

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    Mine uq came with shock cord both "horisontal and vertical". I then attached the cord lock to my tri.thingys as pictured and it works like a charm to keep the uq thight. I like to have the option to tighten or loosen the shock cord for temp regulations. Still need to figure how to prevent a cold shoulder at night though... Quilthook here I come
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tjalling Weideman View Post
    Moving the attachments of the quilt closer together results in a tighter fit. That is the whole idea of thingies.



    The webbing loop is just more simple solution.
    Wonderful illustration (What tool do you use for these?) but it may mislead also. because the viewer assumes that it is uplift alone that was in short supply Certainly, putting in those fulcrum points increases the uplift. But, what only another radial view would show is that as importantly the relocation of fulcrums pulls the the corners of the UQ up and out, to increase conformity of the top of the UQ with the bottom of the hammock.

    There has been a separate problem of UQs bending in the middle, from their own weight and because the rails they are suspended from bend. The "triangle thingie" geometry due to HF member hangnout and further developed here begins to address the need for the UQ to be pulled out, center-to-side, not just up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemostiX View Post
    Wonderful illustration (What tool do you use for these?) but it may mislead also. because the viewer assumes that it is uplift alone that was in short supply Certainly, putting in those fulcrum points increases the uplift. But, what only another radial view would show is that as importantly the relocation of fulcrums pulls the the corners of the UQ up and out, to increase conformity of the top of the UQ with the bottom of the hammock.

    There has been a separate problem of UQs bending in the middle, from their own weight and because the rails they are suspended from bend. The "triangle thingie" geometry due to HF member hangnout and further developed here begins to address the need for the UQ to be pulled out, center-to-side, not just up.
    First, the drawing is a made with MSWord and then converted into jpg!!
    Secondly, you are quite right, when using UQ with channels they tend to sag. This can be solved by pulling the UQ center to side with a prusik (or mini cord locks as I do) on the shockcord and attached to the quilt.

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