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    New Member Roma's Avatar
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    My plans on gear (hammock+tarp+TQ+UQ), please help to decide :-)

    Hello,

    I'm new to hanging and I want to buy all-new gear: hammock, tarp, TQ and UQ. I have in mind 5 setups, here they are with some calculations. Have to mention that I will use no pad and will take this setup for overnight trips from basecamp. I will carry on my shoulder this gear and some other stuff (≈4 lbs).

    I think I should explain how I plan to setup it. Here is a video and original post by BearChaser (Tarp, rigdeline and webbing straps are in snake skins, and hammock and quilts are in bishop bag. First setup tarp, and then attach hammock to knots on ridgeline.

    What will you say? :-)

    I'm 5'9"/132lbs, night temperatures are 40-60 (rarely up to 70). Clothes might get wet, so I don't rely on it as an insulation (but of course I will have dry socks :-)).

    p.s. Related items:
    W BB SL 1.1
    BMJ (Mamajamba)
    HG Burrow 20F
    HG Inc 20F
    Zpacks Cuben n/d (Also I'm choosing between tarp without door or with them, and that is hard: awesome coverage VS simplicity).
    ZPacks 30F
    JRB MtW3 25F
    JRB SS 40F
    JRB Greylock 25F
    Zpacks Cuben AD — custom made
    Last edited by Roma; 04-04-2012 at 15:43.

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    Go with the "cheap" option. All those products in your "cheap option" are high quality, tried and true products that work well together, by all reports. Weight is approximately 5 lbs + you said you carry 4 more pounds, typically. 9 pounds base weight isn't so much. Save your money.

    As well, you'll save money on shipping by ordering from only 2 vendors, instead of three.

    Anyway, that's my 2 cents! Good luck! And welcome to the forum.

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    New Member Roma's Avatar
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    I will order ZPacks Exo, so anyway I will have at least three vendors. :-)

    Anybody, more cents, other combinations? :-)
    Last edited by Roma; 04-06-2012 at 05:25.

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    Russia? I'd buy tarp doors.
    This place you say your lookin' for
    It might have washed out with the rain
    Might not be there anymore
    Might not be the same

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    New Member Roma's Avatar
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    Danced around a lot, updated a table. From all points of view UQ HG Inc 20F looks like the best solution for 3 seasons.

    Now the main issue is TQ: 20, 30 or 40 degrees? Don't know, what temperature rating I need (I'm cold sleeper). Outside temperature is usually not colder then 45F (not warmer then 65F, and 77F is an absolute record (but who even cares about quilts at 77F :-)), but in may and september it might go down to 35F or even 32F.

    And how often you use your JRB Sierra TQ as a serape?
    Last edited by Roma; 04-07-2012 at 18:28.

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    If your a backpacker, serape quilts save a lot of weight and bulk by not having a heavy jacket. I use mine often.
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    A lot of money on some of those items. If your going for the lightweight, then cuben & a 3 season short under quilt (Burrow 20* or Yeti 3 season) and a WBBB 1.1.

    I prefer the longer UQ, like the Incubator 20*.

    +1 on buying from less vendors to save money.

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    On what criteria are you calculating your shipping cost? By my experience so far it seems underestimated for shipping to Russia.

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    New Member Roma's Avatar
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    If your a backpacker, serape quilts save a lot of weight and bulk by not having a heavy jacket. I use mine often.
    I imagined myself sitting near the fire at night with friends, when it's getting chilly. But if I take 40F quilt, does it it mean that I suppose that it will be not so chilly for jacket? Here I think, that maybe I should take 20F quilt, if I'm getting chilly. :-) But I read that if you have 20F UQ, you can comfortable sleep in your TQ at 32F. :-) Oh-oh-oh..

    If your going for the lightweight, then cuben & a 3 season short under quilt (Burrow 20* or Yeti 3 season) and a WBBB 1.1.
    As I said at the beginnings of the thread, I will use no pad, so long UQ is required. I want to save this 7+ ounces, but can't do it here. :-(

    +1 on buying from less vendors to save money.
    I already included shipping cost, see in the table.

    On what criteria are you calculating your shipping cost? By my experience so far it seems underestimated for shipping to Russia.
    I'll ship to California first, then I'll pay something like $78 to shipito.com that will send it in one box via EMS to my home.

    If you are interested in shipping cost from this vendors to Russia directly, here they are:
    vendor | items | to CA | to Russia
    zpacks | 1-3 | 3.95 | 34.95
    jacks | 2 | 24.45 | 64.45
    jacks | 1 | 14.95 |44.95
    warbonnet | 1 | 11 | 40
    warbonnet | 2 | 11 | 45
    hg | any | 0 | not shipping?

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    New Member Roma's Avatar
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    Ordered WB hammock and tarp, JRB Sierra Stealth and HG Incubator 20. Also ZPacks Exo and some other stuff.

    If the day will come and I go lighter, I will have to order only from ZPacks (all this nice cuben stuff: tarp, TQ, even cuben UQ :-)). :-)

    Special thanks to Womble!

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