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    Kids Quilts made from Primaloft One

    Underquilt for Kid Hammock using Primaloft One:

    Hammocks built to 75" x 42" before Whipping and Hemming. Make from 1.9oz RipStop for extra durability... because they are boys. I might try 1.1oz later, if they can keep these from tearing. Trying to build a solid all season style quilt system for them from Primaloft, as I want to keep the cost down. I don't know yet how much they will use them or not.

    I've not built anything before in this size, so there will be a lot of experimenting. I am building two seperate sleep systems, as there are 2 boys. So a total of 4 quilts needed. (I'm open to ideas, or trying 2 methods if people have any ideas out there.)

    My plan is for a 60" by 41" quilt to cover them fully. 60" being the width of the fabric purchase, and subject to being shortened as the fabric dictates. The total fabric size leads to a project of 1.9 yd sq. per quilt.



    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=46834

    According to BillyBob58's calculations:

    A rule of thumb that some go by is: for a well sealed sleeping bag a CLO of 2=40F, 4=20F, 6= 0F.

    CLO Rating for Primaloft One is .84 CLO / 1oz / 1yd sq.

    I can get both 3oz and 5oz weight from Seattle Fabrics (locally). http://www.seattlefabrics.com/products.html#Fabrics

    So the options are 3oz, 5oz, 6oz, 8oz, 9oz, or 10 oz. One Sheet, two sheet, or three sheets.


    CLO / oz/yd sq/temp /1.9oz (project weight)
    .84 / 1 / 1 / n/a / n/a
    2.52/ 3 / 1 / 35 / 5.7oz
    4.20/ 5 / 1 / 20 / 9.5oz
    5.04/ 6 / 1 / 10 / 11.4oz
    6.72/ 8 / 1 / -7 / 15.2oz
    7.56/ 9 / 1 / -15 / 17.1oz
    8.40/ 10/ 1 / -25 / 19oz


    I'm guessing deminishing returns show up well before 0 degrees, but 6 oz of Primaloft One should get them to below freezing if needed. Maybe a 5oz single sheet would be a good idea to reduce potential errors in quilting.

    So weights:

    2x 1.1oz RipStop shell x 1.9 yards of fabric = 4.18 oz

    5oz Primaloft is 9.5 oz so total weight is 13.68
    6oz Primaloft is 11.4 oz so total weight is 15.58

    This is before thread, grosgain, cordage and cordlocks. I think they can handle 2 lbs of Quilts with no problem.

    Would there be any benefit to adding an outside layer of Insultex to the bottom quilt for added wind resistance, and a little lightweight warmth? It would only add .8 oz to the weight, but the downside is that I would have to wait to have it arrive before starting. Just not sure if 1 layer by itself would do much good.

    And is the extra 1oz of insulation worth the extra price per yard I wonder? 5 oz is $14.95/yd. 2x 3oz is $23.90.

    Rough estimate of price:

    2.3 yards of 1.1 ripstop @ $9.25/yd (can get this much cheaper online) $21.25

    1.2 yards of 5oz Primaloft @ $15.95/yd $19.14 +$21.25 = $40.39
    2.4 yards of 3oz Primaloft @ $11.95/yd $28.68 +$21.25 = $49.93

    That is per quilt. Not including grosgain, cordage, or toggles that will run another $5-10 per side.

    I should have bought more tickets for the lottery.
    Last edited by weegie; 04-05-2012 at 21:19. Reason: Had the insulation numbers doubled, vastly overestimating the price.

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    I'm watching the replies on this closely. I've been kicking around the idea of making my daughter (3 yrs old) a kidlet sized UQ/TQ from primaloft1 also. Heck, I wouldn't mind making myself a PL1 TQ and ditching my 3 lb syn bag.

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    You could order a 5# bag of loose primaloft and treat it like 550 down. 5# should cover all your quilts easy and costs $35. Of course construction with baffles is more complicated.

    *Forgot to say downlite sells the loose stuff
    Last edited by Pag; 04-05-2012 at 22:59. Reason: early finisher
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    The other question I would have is what are the temps you will run at normally? You can dig yourself into a hole by going too warm as well as not warm enough. This is a bigger problem with synthetic that with down.

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    I have not taken the kids camping yet in temps below the 40's, and they have been in tents for that. I am expecting to do higher mountain hikes where it might get to the 30's by this fall I think. I don't want to get any colder than that with them at this time.

    I live near Seattle. It never gets super hot here.

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    I'd be really tempted to do a two layer quilt. Make 1 the outer layer with the suspension and the second layer a button in with the thinnest covering I can find on it. Maybe 3" in the main layer and 2 or 3 in the removable one.

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    Had not considered a button-in option. Considering I dont want a bunch of seasonal kid quilts floating around, that might work well. Just store it as one unit, take what i need.

    Could probably do a 3" with an IX outershield , and a button on 3". Would help with the potential water splashing as well. Each layer of ripstop is only going to weigh about 2oz. This might change the whole plan.

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    1 month later, I have material bought, and have made and tested 1 top quilt. Have found lots of things I wish I knew earlier. I expect I will learn from each one, and finally be able to produce a great item just after I finish the last one.

    More to follow.

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    Seems like turning a standard quilt sideways might make a nice peapod-like thing for an appropriate-sized ute...and then be carryable by Mom or Dad as TQ or UQ or winter adjunct.

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