Like I said in my previous posts on the beauty of the making of my tarp by HG. the labor, the tedious meticulous endevours of Adam and his people putting it together, gluing this and that, sewing this and that, sealing this and that..and as perfect every inch of it is made...I really don't see how they make the money on the labor it takes, the time,,,and the cost of materials...price the materials it takes to go into making a cuben tarp. No way am I going to take on the task of building my own 4S tarp..just don't want to try it. I will leave it to the "Pro's" and pay the price and contribute to keeping these cottage makers as we call them..in business. They have the equipment, and knowledge and materials at hand to do what I want them to make me. Its just that simple!