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    Question Climashield VS. Primaloft

    Hello everyone, I am have a bit of a dilemma right now. I am going to make my own DIY under quilt, but I don't know what material to use for the insulation. I want it to be able to go down to around 20-30F. I also want it to be fairly compressible so that it isn't taking up all the space in my pack. As of right now I am leaning towards Primaloft One, but I am open to suggestions. However, I do not want to use down or Insultex.

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    I have not yet worked with Primaloft, but the Climashield XP that a supplier donated to our troop DIY project was great to work with. It seems like 2 layers equates to a 20 degree rating. It's served me very well the past 5 years, compresses nicely, lofts in a short amount of time and of course when stored properly it lretains it's loft very well.
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    Thanks for the quick answer. I want to do a little more research before I start my project, but that will definitely be something I look into.

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    I made an underquilt from some loose fill primaloft. It's full length and comes in under 2lbs. Not the lightest I know, but I did get it in to the 30's and was real toasty. It looks bulky as hell and I haven't made a proper stuff sack for it yet, but it does compress quite well. I can get it down to the size of one of those novelty size basketballs (~7in diameter ball). I put it in the bottom of the pack and let the rest of my stuff compress it. Paul at Arrowhead Equipment is the climashield guru. From what I understand it does compress quite well.
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    EDIT: I'm sorry, I misread your post. I, forwhatever reason, thought you were curious about IX. I think I need a Snickers! I'll leave this here just for reference to others anyway. Sorry about that.


    Having used Insultex exclusively for over a year I can't recommend it for temps below 40F*. Grant YMMV, but for me It just doesn't breath well enough. 2,3,4 layers; doesn't matter, I still get excessive condensation inside the quilt at temps below 40F*. However, above 40F* I find that it is quite warm and despite some slight condensation from time to time it keeps me plenty warm.
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    I'm currently working projects with primaloft 1. Its not super easy to work with, but not terrible either. I'm also pretty sure that you would find that 2 of the 3 oz layer Primaloft 1, with offset sewn-through stabilization would work really well. I have no doubt it would keep you warm at the 20 degree mark.

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    Reading posts and looking at products for over year: Climashield is a winner for minimum frustration with DIY construction. I haven't read a complaint. As an owner: it compresses, it recovers loft, drapes pretty well, and it launders easily.

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    Thanks for everyones replies. I think I am going to go with Climashield, as I have heard that you have to quilt Primaloft One, which I have no idea how to do. Thanks for everyones help and advice.

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    Do you think I should make the bottom of the quilt with silnylon, or would 70d coated ripstop work just as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoutitoutz View Post
    Thanks for everyones replies. I think I am going to go with Climashield, as I have heard that you have to quilt Primaloft One, which I have no idea how to do. Thanks for everyones help and advice.
    You should consider how my CS Yeti is set up. It has removable layers of Climashield. One layer of 2.5 oz/sq.yd is sewn right to the inner dif cut shell. This one layer ( which is ~ 1 sq.yd and so thus weighs ~ 2.5 oz) has proven good for me a little below 50, maybe to 45 YMMV ).

    Add one more layer( a simple process) and it is a whole bunch warmer. Add one or two more and you are ready to approach zero or below. And no reason why you could not add more if needed.

    IOW, instead of one 5 oz layer, use multiple 2.5 oz layers.

    But when it warms up, take out all but the one layer for an almost UL approach. I am endlessly amazed how I can sleep most of the year here in the south with just one layer, and even freezing is probably covered with just 2 layers.

    Though I can't say for certain about that do to lack of testing, because:
    1: my other layers are not 2.5 oz, but closer to 3.8 oz/sq.yd CS
    2: I have only taken the 2 layers to ~42, but was toasty and I feel I could have gone much lower
    3: Have not tested 3 layers myself, but my son was very toasty using 3 layers mid 20s, so could have gone much lower

    Anyway, that is one approach, though I have not seen any one take it. But that WB original CS UQ works real well and is super versatile.
    ( caution: the above advice is based on CS XP and what is probably Combat for the other layers. Have no knowledge bout if CS Apex would work the same)
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