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    Buttons for underquilts.

    I'm curious why people dont use buttons to get the underquilt to attach to the hammock. If both the quilt and hammock are made to the same width, it seems like this would work well. You can still do the shockcord on the head and foot to eliminate drafts.

    Is it because the the quilt would then be wider, thus heavier that people don't do it? That they dont need the insulation that high on the hammock? Worried that the button holes would be a problem creating a weak spot for a rip? Does it create coldspots somehow? Is it the lack of adjustablitly? Please tell me it isn't that buttons are too heavy.

    I'm looking at my kids hammocks, and the primaloft underquilts I'm working on. I can't see a reasonable excuse why it wouldn't work. Buttons on the grosgain edges on both would seem more fiddle-free for a small person, and unlikely to cause the ripstop to tear. The extra material is not going to create a very signifigant source of weight (I can handle the extra .5 - 4 oz.)

    What am I missing?

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    I don't know about you, but if I were to attach semi-heavy things to the edge hems of my hammock, it would pull those edges down several inches because there's not enough tension on the edges to support much weight at all. And if the edges droop, so does your UQ and that equals one case of CBS (cold butt syndrome).
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    Maybe then put in a field of buttons, on the hammock, which matches button-holes in the UQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beast 71 View Post
    Maybe then put in a field of buttons, on the hammock, which matches button-holes in the UQ.
    THAT might work. But then you get cold spots through the button holes...
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    Is press studs an alternative?
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    Generally speaking a quilt width is thinner than the hammock body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by digrat View Post
    I don't know about you, but if I were to attach semi-heavy things to the edge hems of my hammock, it would pull those edges down several inches because there's not enough tension on the edges to support much weight at all. And if the edges droop, so does your UQ and that equals one case of CBS (cold butt syndrome).
    Correct.

    What's being described here is a Speer Snugfit type design, only with buttons instead of Velcro. The Snugfit was part of a system, the other part being the Speer hammock. It works, and works well, only because the Speer hammock has sides that are high and tight.

    The quilt itself is not as wide as the hammock...there are several inches of ripstop along each side that make up the difference.
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    http://www.shelter-systems.com/grip-clips.html

    Look here for an alternative to buttons. I use these to connect a thin light silny "underquilt protector" that weighs nothing. Then I put stuff inside (extra clothes, jacket, sitting pad, etc). This works for me down to almost freezing.

    http://www.2qzqhammockhanger.com/ham...cessories.html
    this is the link to the underquilt protector.

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    The active width varies during usage of the gathered end hammock. Some, if you lay in a banana shape with feet in the center, compared to the tapered shape unloaded. But, much more when you lay on a diagonal.....and then switch diagonals. Both ways, the gathered fabric spreads, and there is more area to be insulated.

    That's a good reason for a partial under-quilt, complemented by insulation for the feet inside the hammock. A larger fraction of that UQ covers un-gathered hammock bottom.

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