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    Ok- can I just say posting from the iPad bites?! Here is the pre mod pic:
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    The Stove Daddy HomeMadeHiker's Avatar
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    I'm fiddling with an idea and need some insight. Most pics show the channel curving downward toward the hammock (gravity and all) but some had a ridgeline connected so that it actually pulled the channel up-ish. Also, the thread is moving away from no arc at all
    (Tube through channel).
    So my question is does the downward arc help or hurt the MSB concept. Would an upward (away from the hammock) arc be an improvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HomeMadeHiker View Post
    ...Would an upward (away from the hammock) arc be an improvement.
    This would have the effect of making the center shorter (tighter) then the edges and leaves you trying to lay on a 6" wide strip down the center as the sides fall away under you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbctx View Post
    I found a biner with a gradual slope on one end and a more pointed on the other in REI the other week. .... From comments I'm pretty sure its a locking belay biner or such....
    That is a HMS screwgate (small pointy end, large curved end) It is a locking type. Rated for around 25KN too, plenty for a hammock.

    Just an idea, if a carabiner would work for giving the spread needed, someone should try it with a pair of DMM Oval gates?

    Quote Originally Posted by berksound View Post
    I have been wrapped up in the carabiner mod for a couple of days now, looking for larger biners than the standard climbing harness, but skoalbandit's post kept coming back to mind....
    Would any of the following be suitable? Larger than normal carabiner's, fully rated, all available in screwlock / twist lock type:
    Clog Super
    DMM Boa
    Mammut Bionic Hms
    Last edited by vinny; 11-15-2012 at 17:21. Reason: im slow..

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinny View Post
    That is a HMS screwgate (small pointy end, large curved end) It is a locking type. Rated for around 25KN too, plenty for a hammock.

    Just an idea, if a carabiner would work for giving the spread needed, someone should try it with a pair of DMM Oval gates?



    Would any of the following be suitable? Larger than normal carabiner's, fully rated, all available in screwlock / twist lock type:
    Clog Super
    DMM Boa
    Mammut Bionic Hms
    The gradual arc of my new one is noticeably better than the round arch of the biner I was using before even though both have the same distance across, the angle does matter.

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    I just tried the biners on an ENO DN. LOTS of fabric to thread on a biner. NO knee ridge. My sense is that this mod has greater effect on smaller, narrower hammocks. Tim put his on a BIAS WW, with similar results.
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    I tried something on my Claytor no net today-------I kept the suspension thru the end channel, but also ran an old piece of tent pole thru the channel. I suspected this would open the end up more and provide a better lay--------The end result was not good---it tore out some of the end channel stitches. For some reason, when you put a rigid tube thru the channel, it puts alot of extra stress on the end channel stitches when you load up the hammock. (I guess the end channel needs to bend, which kind of makes sense due to most of your weight being in the middle of the hammock) So, lesson learned---no one got hurt, just a few stitches that need to be replaced! So........dont to that! Hopefully this will keep some one else from making the same mistake!
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    Thanks for the tip stevebo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevebo View Post
    I tried something on my Claytor no net today-------I kept the suspension thru the end channel, but also ran an old piece of tent pole thru the channel. I suspected this would open the end up more and provide a better lay--------The end result was not good---it tore out some of the end channel stitches. For some reason, when you put a rigid tube thru the channel, it puts alot of extra stress on the end channel stitches when you load up the hammock.
    Thanks Stevebo. I know there has been many questions about putting the spreader bar in the end channel in this thread, but they were never answered conclusively. Sorry for the damage to your Claytor, but glad that you are unharmed. Thanks for sharing this information.

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    That is very nice what you did with the spreader bar berksound.
    Steve bo that makes that it would create a result like that. What I personally would do is something like what berksound did.
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