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    Quote Originally Posted by ezhiker View Post
    With 1/2 inch Amsteel you can use it as a tow rope for your SUV
    Dual propose is the only way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_guilbeau View Post


    Create a "Fixed Eye" on both ends of the Amsteel Blue Rope.
    Caution: Be sure to stitch the bury as this method requires!
    http://youtu.be/Q22wgYZL9f0
    The problem with 1/2" amsteel is the bury is gonna be huge. To make a simple dogbone, the shortest possible length it could be is over 44", that assuming only an 1" eye and a two fid bury with the tails touching!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redoleary View Post
    The problem with 1/2" amsteel is the bury is gonna be huge. To make a simple dogbone, the shortest possible length it could be is over 44", that assuming only an 1" eye and a two fid bury with the tails touching!
    The basic idea is worth looking at, though. Ti tubing and dynaglide + ti Dutch buckles if he ever solves the puzzle.
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    I had often considered an arched tube with a cross bar to keep it from collapsing, imagine a capitol letter D turned 90*, but then you're back to a big carabiner... or at least more than I want to carry in the line of hardware. It's a valid concept tho'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_guilbeau View Post
    How about taking an aluminum tube and bending and cutting to your preferred hammock design.
    http://toolmonger.com/wp-content/upl.../05/Bender.jpg

    Then inset the tube into 1/2-inch Amsteel Blue Rope.
    http://content.westmarine.com/images...ge/9636143.jpg

    Create a "Fixed Eye" on both ends of the Amsteel Blue Rope.
    Caution: Be sure to stitch the bury as this method requires!
    http://youtu.be/Q22wgYZL9f0

    I suppose that the only issue will be aluminum tube abraision issues on the Amsteel Blue Rope, which can easily be remedied by a bit of heat shrink adhesive tubing end caps on the curved aluminum tubing ends.

    The standing end of the Amsteel Blue Rope can also have a small loop spliced into it for attachment to suspension.
    I think that Rog97 had a similar idea in a much lighter form. Check this post to see if this is something like what you're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclismo123 View Post
    Part of advancing the knowledge is being open about things that were less than successful. I fell prey to chasing the weight genie on this one.

    I had some 1/2 inch aluminum tubing around the house and tried to make a mini spreader bar. After cutting and drilling the bar weighed about one ounce. Recognizing that the holes could present sharp edges, I spent considerable time filing them to avoid them. I even tried heat shrink tubing to protect the amsteel. No luck. I think the tubing wall was just to thin to avoid cutting through the heat shrink. Haven't totally given up, but some more thought needs to go into how to avoid putting a knife against my suspension.Attachment 44776Attachment 44777
    the first thing that came to mind would be a piece of plastic that has a hole threw the middle or a piece of cork that you could drill a hole threw the center to run the line threw.

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    The bury can be stitched and shortened quite a bit, about 3-inches should do. Do this on four sides of the rope (every 90 degrees of rotation) and I promise you it will not come apart, use good thread


    Aluminum 6061 T6 aluminum tubing 1/2-inch OD with 0.10 wall thickness with a length of 1-Foot will weigh 0.1477 lbs or 2.36 Oz. Here is an online calculator to check out.
    http://www.onlinemetals.com/calculator.cfm

    Here is an lbs to oz online calculator to check out the conversions.
    http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=...iw=800&bih=387

    So an aluminum tube made from 6061 T6 aluminum with a 0.10-inch wall thickness configured with a 1/2-inch Amsteel Blue Rope over a 7-inch straight section covered with the amsteel passed thru the gathered end, and 2.5-inches on both ends to create a triangle would do the trick.

    The Sampson Amsteel Blue Rope in 1/2-inch size comes to 6.4 lbs per 100-feet (according to several websites that sell the rope), which comes to 6.4lbs/100ft = 0.064lbs/ft = 1.02 oz per foot of the rope.
    http://www.seattlemarine.net/product...eel_ropes.html

    A two foot section of the 1/2-inch Amsteel Blue Rope would suffice, for a total weight of about 2.36 Oz for the Aluminum Tube (use an aluminum thimble to reduce this weight) and add 1-2 Oz of Amsteel Blue Rope splice. Here is an image of a short length of Amsteel Tow Rope with an eye splice in the end, to insure safety just stitch it to secure as seen in the image as shown at the beginning of this post.



    In the above image image the aluminum tube being inserted into the standing end where the black tape is, the opposite end with the splice could be the attachment point for the suspension system.

    However, since the idea of microlight weights come into play, perhaps this might not work for all, due to the 3-4 oz total weight for a 1.5-foot complete section weighing too much for the ultralight crowd.
    http://images.persephonemagazine.com...-high-five.gif

    My thinking is that covering a 1/2-inch tube with the Amsteel Blue Rope within the gathered end of the hammock might afford a sufficient coefficient of friction to prevent bunching towards the center of the 7-inch span.

    ...and as a matter of fact I do use 1/2-inch Amsteel Blue Rope, with the 1983 Cherokee Chief Laredo 4x4.

    Now granted I am not an ultralight kind of person, so this post might seem outrageous to some, but to my mind 3-4 oz for a complete section is fairly light, and using the following to stitch the Amsteel Rope guarantees the integrity of your hang.
    Last edited by joe_guilbeau; 04-07-2013 at 12:49.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redoleary View Post
    I had often considered an arched tube with a cross bar to keep it from collapsing, imagine a capitol letter D turned 90*, but then you're back to a big carabiner... or at least more than I want to carry in the line of hardware. It's a valid concept tho'.
    Sounds like the Petzel D rings I use.

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    At Lowe's today and saw aluminum corrugated gas lines for appliances.

    Thinking that a small dowel inserted and then bend the tubing would work well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HomeMadeHiker View Post
    Sounds like the Petzel D rings I use.
    You previously mentioned paying $18 for those, I believe. Where?
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