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    Hennessey whoopie conversion issue

    I just converted this morning over to whoopie slings and I am running into some issues with how Hennessey sets their hammocks up.

    First, my setup for the conversion is a 12 inch "dog bone" of amsteel to secure the end of the hammock, to a Dutch biner, then to a 6 foot whoopie sling. The issue I'm having is in the prussik knots that secure the tarp to the suspension. One, they fall on the constrictor part of the hammock making adjustments a pain. Two, the prussik no longer bites into the slick Amsteel like it did on the previous line. Now it just slides easily back and forth on the sling without holding tension on the tarp.

    Do you have to use a different type of cordage for your prussiks when using Amsteel?

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    Are you using the stock hennessy prussiks? I might be wrong, but I think the whole concept of prussik knots & co works only with a rope significantly smaller that the one it is wrapped around.

    That being said, I really don't know if you can use prussiks with something as slippery as amsteel. Curious to have more experienced opinions too.

    Seems to me that almost all the whoopies users might have a separate rigdeline for their tarp.

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    IIRC, Amsteel is too slick for a traditional prussik, I think some people have found an alternative, myself, I ran a pair of guylines with Figure-9s on them, and I run my tarp on it's own suspension to my 'biners at my tree-straps. You can still get it nice and close like the stock set-up, plus since your tarp is no longer attached to your hammock set up, you can set it up first if it's raining.

    HYOH, but that seems to be my most elegant solution, other than running a seperate ridgeline for my tarp. To me, this is simpler.

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    If prussiks don't work on amsteel, I think the solution of a line running to the carabiner would be a decent compromise. I could still contain everything in the snakeskin, and retain the quick setup that is a huge pro of owning a hennessey, just with a slight mod to the original setup.

    Anyone have experience using a prussik with amsteel in the tradition hennessey method?

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    Anyone have any luck with a Klemheist knot on Amsteel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackTalon View Post
    If prussiks don't work on amsteel, I think the solution of a line running to the carabiner would be a decent compromise. I could still contain everything in the snakeskin, and retain the quick setup that is a huge pro of owning a hennessey, just with a slight mod to the original setup.
    One problem with keeping the tarp in the snake skins along with the hammock comes when hiking in several days of rainy weather. Packing the hammock inside the wet tarp day after day can lead to a damp and smelly nest. I stopped packing this way just for that reason.
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    I just ordered a whole new setup for my tarp.

    I went with a separate ridgeline and bishop bag as suggested. Be ready for about $60 to accomplish this is a professional easy to use manner. I spent a while researching my setup and hope it was worth it. To change to Whoopies and update the tarp setup cost me $100 bucks. Ahhh the price of lightweight adjustability!

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    I purchased a hammock that already had the conversion. I am not sure it is done right. Can someone who has seen one done properly take a look at these pics and tell me if it looks right. Also, I have never used whoopie slings before, but mine look a little frayed. Is it okay for them to look like this? Thanks in advance!
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    The prevailing approach for tarps is to tie off directly to the trees...Easy , fast, taut and does not sag upon entry into the hammock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by froggfeathers View Post
    I purchased a hammock that already had the conversion. I am not sure it is done right. Can someone who has seen one done properly take a look at these pics and tell me if it looks right. Also, I have never used whoopie slings before, but mine look a little frayed. Is it okay for them to look like this? Thanks in advance!
    In my opinion it looks to me that your whoopie to the hammock needs a couple more wraps ....here is a link to one of the ways its done http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CorthADuXs......I have done this conversion and have had no problems.....also they do look a little worn and frayed.....so you may need to replace sometime soon....hope my two cents help!!!
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