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    Behold: Super Whoopies!!!!!

    I didn't mind whoopies but it annoyed me that you had to throw on the tree straps, Marlin Spike hitch, then whoopie onto the hitch & on top of all that you'd lose 50cm at each end.

    So out of pure lazyness I can up with this


    From the fixed loop and I added an extra 25cm between the end of the loop bury & the exit point of the adjustable loop. I reeved a 35cm piece of webbing to serve as tree protection


    Then added an 2nd 35cm piece for more protection but can also be pushed out of the way if not needed




    This is the set up with the main piece only being used, 2nd pushed away



    Set up using both pieces of protection



    They're adjustable from 25cm to 2 metres not including the tree strap portion.
    I'll be buying some more Amsteel to make 2 large continuous loops for extension slings & 2 x 1 metre pieces of webbing in the event the only suitable trees are huge or over 5m apart.
    Last edited by Benny; 05-13-2012 at 23:44.

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    We use tree straps (some call them huggers) to spread the force of the suspension over a larger area. A width of 1 inch is considered as a minimum. In this solution the webbing spreads the force, depending on the thickness and stiffness of the webbing over a width which is probably not more than twice the diameter of the cordage (1/4 inch). This might not be enough to convince a park ranger that you are not harming his trees!

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    Yeah thought about that, the webbing I've used is a bit more thicker & rigid than the usual webbing. I'm pretty keen to keep tree damage to a minimum & keep people off our backs & I'm pretty confident this will do the trick. I'll be testing pretty well before I hit the bush but so far so good, had a snooze in the back yard this arvo & no signs of wear & tear on the tree (it is a harder bark tree though).

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    Wait a minute. To get the standing end of the whoopie through your fixed loop, the whoopies must detach from the hammock, right? So there's another attachment you have to make every time you set up?

    Doesn't seem like any less work than a traditional strap/marlin spike hitch/whoopie to me, unless I'm missing something. How do the whoopies attach to your hammock?

    Props for creativity for sure! Thanks for the pictures, too! D
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    Keep a carabiner on each end of the hammock.

    Wrap the Whoopies like you do tree straps, clip the carabiners in to the adjustable loop, make the adjustment & done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny View Post
    Keep a carabiner on each end of the hammock.

    Wrap the Whoopies like you do tree straps, clip the carabiners in to the adjustable loop, make the adjustment & done.
    OIC!! Cool!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tjalling View Post
    We use tree straps (some call them huggers) to spread the force of the suspension over a larger area. ...
    I'm with you Tjalling. This solution appears illusory to these eyes. The strap does look good, but is not actually fulfilling its intended function. Not good.

    I'd have to say, "back to the drawing board."

    Having said that, another solution is to put a few sticks between the line and the tree trunk. In an emergency, that spreads the pressure and doesn't damage the cambrian layer (the lifeblood of the tree) nearly as much.

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    I'm thinking this has to be difficult to adjust when the adjustable bury is around the tree. Seems like a lot of fiddle factor has been added to get rid of the simplicity of a MSH. HYOH I guess.

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    Could just be hard to tell from the angles of the picture but I can't see how the straps are actually accomplishing anything here. It looks like the weight is still on the whoopie slings which just sit on top of the tree straps, which would still cause them to dig into the tree and cause ring death. Nice idea, but it needs some work if you want to keep those trees alive.

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