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    Weight savings with 2\3 UQ?

    Hi
    I tought that when I was going for this Hammock thing I could just buy a hammock, pad and a tarp and use my old sleepingbag. A few months later I now own 2 tarps 2 hammocks, a 20F-TopQuilt and a 0F-Underquilt.
    Now I need some moore
    I think my 0F UQ is going to be too warm in the summer so I`m thinking of getting a higher ratet UQ.
    How much weight can I save on using a 2\3 UQ? I understand that I have to use a pad for the rest 1\3.
    So is there really som much weight savings?

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    According to Hammock Gear, it is about 7.3 OZ for the 40 deg variety

    3/4: Link 11.7 oz

    Full Length: Link 19 Oz

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    Whether or not you save weight depends on what you use to make up the missing insulation due to using a short UQ. Lately I've been using a 3/4 UQ (which is more like a 2/3 UQ for me since I am tall) supplemented with a 1/8" Thinlight pad from Gossamer Gear. The pad weighs between 2.4 and 2.8 oz, and I cut 1/4 of it off so it is even less. It also serves as the back pad for my backpack, so in effect it is "free" weight when used as insulation under my legs and feet in the hammock.

    Note that this pad would not be anywhere near warm enough for cold weather use, but serves well for easy 3-season use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by affreeman View Post
    Whether or not you save weight depends on what you use to make up the missing insulation due to using a short UQ. Lately I've been using a 3/4 UQ (which is more like a 2/3 UQ for me since I am tall) supplemented with a 1/8" Thinlight pad from Gossamer Gear. The pad weighs between 2.4 and 2.8 oz, and I cut 1/4 of it off so it is even less. It also serves as the back pad for my backpack, so in effect it is "free" weight when used as insulation under my legs and feet in the hammock.

    Note that this pad would not be anywhere near warm enough for cold weather use, but serves well for easy 3-season use.
    precisely, save when your kit already considers the pad (for camp seat, trail seat, pack frame)

    if not, i'd go full length, nothing to worry about, hop in and sleep!
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    Do you use a full size pad with a 2/3 UQ, or just a small one?
    If you have to go to ground a full size pad is probably the best choice?
    Whats the size of your pad?

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    Some even save more weight and use the backpack itself as the missing pad under the legs. It does work to certain temps.
    I'm in the camp of using the pad as both part of the backpack padding/suspension and as the missing insulation under the feet.
    Yes to using full length pad and full length or 2/3s or 3/4s UQ and full length, just depending on the expected temps. CCF pads are always a cheap light approach to extending your temperature range.
    Dont forget Shugs magical trick of using his vest outside the hammock in the foot area as a footUQ-very smart use of camp clothing.
    Another method is looooooong THICK wool socks that go up the calves....wool doesnt compress like down-just remember to put them on loosely around the toes.
    I've got one UQ, the LeighLo 5-50 which is 5 feet long and 50 inches wide. I'm 6'1" so it goes from shoulders to end of ankles so I guess its a 4/5s uq. Little padding is required for the feet when it's used so I use the inflatable seat pad by REI or thermarest.

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    the size of my pad is as big as my back- just in case I have to hit the deck to sleep. (shoulders to just to the top of my legs).

    TH
    my hammock gear weights total: 2430g (~86oz)
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    Some even save more weight and use the backpack itself as the missing pad under the legs
    I will try it, but it doesnt sound comfortable, in what temperatures will this work?

    the size of my pad is as big as my back- just in case I have to hit the deck to sleep. (shoulders to just to the top of my legs).
    What do you use under your legs if you have to go to ground?

    I`m not planning to go to ground, but I like to know that i could if i had to

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    I slept out last night with a 20' 3/4 Phoenix and a 20' burrow

    No pad under my feet and took off my socks because my feet were too warm
    Temp was 13'C (55'F)

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    I expect to be uncomfortable if I go to ground anyway, so I'll use my pack under my legs. (if it's super cold I can wrap up in a fetal position.) I also have a small single user ground sheet (plastic table cloth- we'll see how it works)

    my UQ is full length any way- I bring the pad as a seat, doormat, emergency insulation and go to ground capability. (just a little padding for my shoulders and hips just in case)

    I chimed in mostly to get you to think about the size. If you're trying to save weight by taking 3/4s of a UQ, why take 4/4s of a CCF pad to compensate?

    TH
    my hammock gear weights total: 2430g (~86oz)
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    (see my profile for detailed weights)

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