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    Thoughts on this sewing machine

    A friend of mine's mother has a machine for sale, said she would let it go to me for 250$ works etc. Dont have all the details. Here is a pic.

    Consew industrial.
    Is it worth it??
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    What do you want to do with it?
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

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    It's hard to tell from the small picture, but it doesn't appear to be a "sewing machine".

    The lack of a presser foot made me think it was a free motion embroidery machine, but its not.

    The heavy chain presser foot lift made me look closer and see a sideways presser foot probably, which tells me it's a probably a button sewing machine or a possibly a bar tack machine.

    So...as asked, what do you want to do with it? Find out a model number, but I don't think you want it.

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    Industrial machines are less than ideal for a beginning DIY gear maker. They are wicked fast and can be really hard to handle for a novice. If you are an experienced stitcher and looking to do some level of production work you might find a use for it IF it is a a straight lock stitch machine.

    However... if you are a novice or just looking to do your own gear... I don't think you would be happy with it.
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblinrev View Post
    Industrial machines are less than ideal for a beginning DIY gear maker. They are wicked fast and can be really hard to handle for a novice. If you are an experienced stitcher and looking to do some level of production work you might find a use for it IF it is a a straight lock stitch machine.

    However... if you are a novice or just looking to do your own gear... I don't think you would be happy with it.

    With a nice servo an industrial is far easier to sew with IMO. Even the cheaper styles usually come with knee lift, allowing both hands to hold fabric. With a nice servo, back tack and trim threads are controlled with the nice large pedal and speed control is very easy.

    However, this machine would not be a machine for a gear maker. Definitely looks like a bar tracker, so it won't sew a straight line and most likely doesn't have feed dogs/ needle feed.
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    I spoke to the guy and he said it was a walking foot sewing machine. Would this work for rip stop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pag View Post
    With a nice servo an industrial is far easier to sew with IMO. Even the cheaper styles usually come with knee lift, allowing both hands to hold fabric. With a nice servo, back tack and trim threads are controlled with the nice large pedal and speed control is very easy.
    I've used a knee lift and it can be nice under some circumstances. However, I have found that I don't use it enough to make it a desirable feature. If I had one I would use it occasionally but... eh... I don't turn enough corners at high speed to make it important to me.

    There's no question that a pedal foot control is easier to get the hang of than those stupid button controls, but I'm not sure if I would care enough about the pedal size for the kind of stitching I do.

    If you do tailoring or small parts stitching all that can make make a difference. But for the average home gear maker.... if you want to spend the money.... you won't throw it down the drain. But it seems overkill to me.
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

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    He also has a Lewis suger? Also, not sure on spelling.

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    IMO a serger is not a replacement for a sewing machine particularly for the gear maker. They serve two distinctly different purposes. A serger is nice to have.... but I would get a regular sewing machine first. EG... you could not sew loops in webbing with a serger.
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clinton View Post
    I spoke to the guy and he said it was a walking foot sewing machine. Would this work for rip stop?
    Walking foot could sew ripstop nicely. There are some variations to walking foot sewing machines (needle feed, alternating Presser foot, compound feed) and i think a machine with needle feed is ideal for slippery fabrics like ripstop. I have a needle feed and a compound feed machine, I don't sew ripstop with the compound but I certainly could.

    As far as knee life I think you love what you're used to and i personally see being able to hold the fabric with both hands makes handling slippery fabrics much nicer. Also for the price of a featherweight you can get a juki ddl5500 with knee lift, servo and trimmers nowadays. I would consider that a huge upgrade over a 221. The real downside of an industrial is the size.
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