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    whiping pull outs using pvc glue?

    i'm making pull out lines for my new tarp. on a whim i selected some 2mm line from a local west marine store. it's all polyester construction has a core with a braided covering. once cut it unfrays a bit and always slides off from the uncut position. if it were a large dia. rope i would simply whip it with standart wipping line- (old school boating skills) but this is small and frankly chemical wipping makes a lot of sense here. iwas going to buy a can of the vinyl "dip-a-rope" ( at 20$U.S...ouy! ), or whatever it's called. but yesterday it occured to me that simple PVC glue, once thinned, would be a lot easyer, lighter- and since i have some of that on hand- cheaper too! a quick look at the labling and i see that acetone is used in the glue. if i thin out the glue with some more acetone or toluene, will that chenicaly harm the rope's qualities?? there are other solvents used in the make up of the glue.MEK and a few unpronounceable ones. i do have toluene, and acetone on hand. the plan is to soak a small section with the thinned solution, and once almost dryed, cut with razor blade and then dip in straight glue (maybe the same thinned stuff- undecided at this point) .
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    You can touch the rope with a lighter gently. It'll melt a small bit on the ends and prevent fraying.

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    ty gargoyle, i took a breather from yard work to check this thread out. and there before me was the spool of rope....looked at it and finally tuned into the real world!! it was sealed by heat!....i'm not sure why it didn't dawn on me that that was the simplest.

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    I've started doing nothing...letting the ends fray. It may look awful, but I end up with a softer knot that does less snagging, and thus, less tangling. For an old Coastie, this is hard to take, but it works.
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    What about a backsplice, or bury?

    Who can't use an eye on the end of their rope?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_gr8t_waldo View Post
    ...it's all polyester construction has a core with a braided covering...
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    What about a backsplice, or bury?...
    See above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gargoyle View Post
    You can touch the rope with a lighter gently. It'll melt a small bit on the ends and prevent fraying.
    we call that a "butane back splice", we bein sailors of course

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    my hat's off to anyone who could backsplice 2mm rope!this stuff..real world .078 of an inch in dia. ( that's 1/12th of an inch) and as close as i can count, 12 strands make up the outter braid. fwiw- it's FSE ROBLINE, orian500..on their site the call out the construction of larger size ropes. i'll use my soldering iron to make the back splice.

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    Because I got fat fingers, I make the knot and then trim the excess to within as close as I feel comfortable. Then I wave the lighter past, melting the end and carefully "setting" the knot with the flame. A little practice is required to prevent complete meltdown or damage to the line. This technique is for guylines and such, not for true support lines.

    Done correctly this prevents the big pokey glob hanging out that can cause tangles as OldGringo mentions.

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