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    Quote Originally Posted by gmcttr View Post
    Carry amsteel "extenders"...just a length of amsteel with fixed eyes in both ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tjalling View Post
    I would not trust paracord as suspension line. Its breaking strenght is to close to the actual tension. At a 30 degree angle it needs to hold your full weight. Would you dare to hang from a paracord line?
    I have done it... I do not recommend it for an every time set up... But in a pinch it works... I have hung off of paracord and I have trusted it several times with my health... And dynamically it is built to absorb shock and stretch without snapping... I have seen people pull cars out of a ditch with it doubled over... If it can drag a car out of the mud doubled it can surely hold 190 lbs even with the dynamics and physics of the angles worked into play... It may not be for every one and you will wake up a little lower than you went to sleep but is that THAT big of a deal... I'm not advocating making an entire sling out of it but if I need 3 feet to get something around the tree I'll use my paracord...
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    Using the cinch buckles, I just carry 12ft straps. Only once has it been an issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmcttr View Post
    Carry amsteel "extenders"...just a length of amsteel with fixed eyes in both ends.

    If your trees are close enough/your whoopies long enough, you can run the whoopie through the loop on one end of the tree strap, wrap the strap as far as it will go around the tree and use a biner to attach the whoopie to the free end of the strap.
    Is this the only way to use extenders? Or is there another way without additional hardware like the biner?

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    Run your whoopie sling loop THROUGH one loop of the strap (right side of tree below), run the strap around the tree and attach the WHOOPIE LOOP to the other end of the strap (left side of tree below) the same way you normally attach the strap loop (i.e.: marlin spike hitch, buckle as seen here, etc.) The whoopie sling makes up the distance around the tree that the strap lacks. Adjust your whoopie as usual.

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    Thanks for the visual!! - but I'm trying to avoid using clips. UL compromise here. I'd get more versatility out of extra cordage than a DC.

    I thought about maybe doing a marlin spike hitch with some strong cordage, but the problem then becomes the size of the knot. Would small diameter cordage work enough to keep the whoopie from resting on the toggle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teegs View Post
    Thanks for the visual!! - but I'm trying to avoid using clips. UL compromise here. I'd get more versatility out of extra cordage than a DC.

    I thought about maybe doing a marlin spike hitch with some strong cordage, but the problem then becomes the size of the knot. Would small diameter cordage work enough to keep the whoopie from resting on the toggle?
    You don't have to use a clip like in the photo, you can use the MSH just like normal. I have done the same thing as the picture several times, it works well.

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    I use the WBBB straps. For normal set up I use them as designed but my system is slightly different. Instead of only buckles on the continuous loop I also spiced a Dutch Hook on there. I also carry a set of 6ft whoopies that I can attach to the dutch hook. This gives me a couple options:

    1) Use WBBB straps as normal.
    2) Unbuckle straps and attach whoopies to the dutch hook/use MSH if I fancy using whoopies or if the trees are large so I can use the WBBB 10ft straps to 6ft whoopies.

    I can now handle large tree's with a large span using my regular set up, anything more than they can handle and I can't mount them high enough. It's not the lightest system but I'm happy with it. There is always a piece of suspension hardware going unused on the continuous loops so also use them for hanging other gear on so they're not a complete waste.

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    Pucker Factor is right. The illustrated method works without carrying ANY extra gear. Just attach your whoopie sling to the end of your strap with a marlin spike hitch as usual.

    Use sticks found in camp, and you don't even have to carry toggles.
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