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    Necessity

    Must have ridgeline. Too many things to hang off them!

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    Senior Member rip waverly's Avatar
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    i'm with neo....

    thats why i enjoy the speer/&/ switchback hammock... non structural ridgeline....

    supports bug net, and lets me hang things on it, but doesn't lock me into
    sag. i like my hmmks like a canoe.

    there's a reason people rave about the comfort of the switchback..............
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    Quote Originally Posted by rip waverly View Post
    supports bug net, and lets me hang things on it, but doesn't lock me into
    sag. i like my hmmks like a canoe.
    This is why I use a lash-it whoopie for a ridgeline. Adjustable sag and although functional, removable. What's not to like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hppyfngy View Post
    This is why I use a lash-it whoopie for a ridgeline. Adjustable sag and although functional, removable. What's not to like?
    the hammock to long for any of my tarps plus this what i am used to in picture belowneo
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob58 View Post
    But Neo, you have been taking a lot of wild chances lately! Crazy stuff like UQs and whoopie slings! I'm thinking it took you some time after you got them to decide they were not so bad after all. ( heck what is really crazy is you have posted some pics of a Hennessy you have been using! )

    I hang with and without RLs. I have never bothered with one on my Claytor No Net and don't recall missing it. Probably because it does not seem to matter much if I have a lot of sag in it or very little, and with no net there is not much need to hang anything from the RL. No RL on my Speer.

    My RLs on the HHs have always worked fine( just pull them moderately tight and the sag feels about right) and seemed handy. Particularly with the netted bottom entry, when I would just have most anything I was likely to need inside the hammock with me, hanging from the RL either above me or with stuff sacks tied into the RL loops at the hammock ends.

    I usually have RLs added to my JRB bridge hammocks, for the exact length recommended by JRB, then just adjust until RL is straight. Just seems like a quicker adjustment.
    i been an old school claytor jungle hanger so long i am struggling with everything.i cant seem to make a fully satisfactory break from the mold lol.
    you know me personally lol.people that dont know me probally cant understand why whoopie slings,under quilts,and ridge lines and figure 9 tarp adjusters are a hard concept for me to adjust too lolneo
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    By tomorrow you'll have a longer ride length tarp on your doorstep though
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgibson View Post
    By tomorrow you'll have a longer ride length tarp on your doorstep though
    thanksneo
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    Quote Originally Posted by rip waverly View Post
    i like my hmmks like a canoe.
    This is not the first time I've ever heard of someone who likes their hammock like a canoe. It makes me want to do a survey. Is it that common?

    When I was doing a hammock demo earlier this month, I was showing off an ENO DoubleNest along side a competitor's "Double" hammock and everyone was surprised to see that the ENO was shorter. While the competitors hammock had a nice sag, the ENO was virtually taut -- both were hanging off the same set of carabiners.

    I've found that I can't get much of a diagonal lay in an ENO. The extra width combined with the short length makes it more "natural" to sleep inline, but the short length makes the rails ride tight so the whole thing is up like a canoe.

    Personally, I hate sleeping in "canoe" hammocks primarily because of the shoulder squeeze.

    Observation #2: When I do demos, 99% of the time people get into a hammock and sleep in line like a banana. I like this because it provides a teaching opportunity. After I get the person to swing their head and feet to the side into a diagonal position, 100% of the time the person exhales and says, "wow, that is so comfortable!" If I were only selling hammocks...

    The ENO DoubleNest design makes it natural to sleep inline. It's more comfortable than the ground, but to me it's nearly night and day different than sleeping Brazilian style (in the diagonal).

    I'm perfectly fine with those folks (read: neo, rip waverly) who prefer to sleep inline. Heck, it's better than the ground. I won't complain. So, neo, if it works for you, do it. It's just interesting to me that when given the choice, the "canoe" is preferred.

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    Neo, I understand. I am a dedicated Claytor fan too. It is strange. Many of issues some have with hammocks in general are not issues with the claytors. A ridgeline is one of them; it isn't necessary in the claytor so we are used to not having it. For us, a ridgeline is a solution to a problem which doesn't exist and a hammock with one just feels weird.

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