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    Quote Originally Posted by chewbacca View Post
    Wow, Just got my new BMBH deluxe and using a Neoair All season 25" wide air pad in the sleeve, it is awesome. I lay completley flat, no squeeze at all, and nice views out and so comfy. I even just deflate the pad and just leave it in the sleeve and roll the whole thing up and fits right into the included BMBH stuff sack.
    Where I'm going hiking, I have to go to ground every now and then, so this is a very interesting combination.
    But carrying too much weight on my back doesn't appeal, so:
    Chewbacca, how much does the BMBH deluxe/Neoair All season combo weigh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrvp View Post
    Have any of you tried this with the regular size 20" x 72" Neo Air? I wonder if that would allow you to lay a little lower in the hammock, but still reduce shoulder squeeze?
    I have used this idea, as I have a regular neo air and an xtherm (both 20" wide the xtherm is tapered). As for shoulder squeeze, it works perfect for me... No shouder squeeze at all. I have found that a great combo for fall so far (I just got my BMBH) is using the regular neo air (r value of around 2, help here?) And putting a grey lock 3 underneath. this combo works great as i found the xtherm to be way too hot. And the bonus is you have the insulation up the sides! For deep winter I may use the xtherm/mt. Washington combo, but I suspect it will be way too hot still, so I will probably still be using the old neo air still.

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    Side Sleeping

    I typically sleep on my side with my legs extended, so I'm thinking the BMBH with the NeoAir pad may be just what I need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrvp View Post
    I typically sleep on my side with my legs extended, so I'm thinking the BMBH with the NeoAir pad may be just what I need.
    I use the wide Neo-Air pad (26"); but, Torso Length. Under that, I may, optionally, also supplement with a Full-length Thermarest Z-Fold or a wallyworld CCF pad.

    Side sleeping and "4" works well...Ahhhh
    - Loki,

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    Nature's peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees.
    The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy,
    while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn."
    John Muir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Where I'm going hiking, I have to go to ground every now and then, so this is a very interesting combination.
    But carrying too much weight on my back doesn't appeal, so:
    Chewbacca, how much does the BMBH deluxe/Neoair All season combo weigh?
    Neo Air All Season 25" wide is 25 oz
    BMBH Deluxe with Spreader bars 39 oz
    Total....64oz or 4 Pounds

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    Those having and issue or concern with the sides getting a little chilly. Have you seen this from ENO. Its called HotSpot Hammock Sleeping Pad Wings. Should be fairly easy to make one cheap. Course you could also purchase them from REI Link.


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    I have one (ENO Hotspot). Works OK with a gathered end hammock and standard width (20 in) pad. Won't work with a BMBH deluxe unless you use the pad inside the hammock and you don't use the sleeve intended for use with pads. Also does not work with NEOAIR All Season because of the width of the All-Season pad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chewbacca View Post
    Neo Air All Season 25" wide is 25 oz
    BMBH Deluxe with Spreader bars 39 oz
    Total....64oz or 4 Pounds
    Thanks chewbacca.

    Hmmm, a tad heavy.
    Have to think about that one.

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    VATriker, gotcha. I forgot the Deluxe has the pad pocket & you all where using it. Wonder if you could make something similar that would hang down from the walls on the inside of the hammock.

    By the way, really like your setup, pretty darn sweet!

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    All season

    This is my current section hiking setup too - BMBH with full size All Season NeoAir in the pocket. I would say I have gone down to mid 30's with it so far. Just the pad and a Western Mountaineering Ultralite sleeping bag rated for 20 degrees. The bag is a full zip so i use it like a quilt. I start with the pad fully inflated and then let air out once in the hammock. The pad is a pain to get into the pocket because it has a slip resistent coating on it. So far the pad has been warm no matter how much air has been let out.

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