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    Ring Buckle Supports

    I posted the instructions for making the ring buckle supports I had at Mt Rogers:

    http://www.tothewoods.net/HomemadeGe...eSupports.html

    I like these much better than the Crazy Creek setup...when I use webbing, I'll keep using these until I find something better.

    What do y'all think?
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    I went to the REI here in GSO and got four of those rings the other night. I haven't had a chance to try them out yet, though. Just by feel, I can tell they're lighter than my CC buckles.

    I haven't had the issues with the buckles that you're reporting, really. I just don't ever tighten them down all the way. I think it might be a problem with my ULB though - you have to get an HH pretty tight or the ridgeline/bugnet sags all over you.

    I'll definitely try out the rings, and I may switch over. Since I've already got my support cord tied with two bights, it won't be hard. Basically just directly sub the rings for the buckle.

    I think I'll keep using the separate straps, though. With my "blackbishop's sack", you kinda have to take one off anyway. And it's not a big hassle for setup. Pretty quick and easy, actually. Plus those 'biners are fairly expensive, and I think I'd gain more weight using the rings AND 'biners than I've got now with the buckles.

    Nice directions!
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    I think I am going to try this with my next setup. Why not just eliminate the biners and run the strap thru the loop then to the rings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HANGnOUT View Post
    I think I am going to try this with my next setup. Why not just eliminate the biners and run the strap thru the loop then to the rings?
    That's what I do with my CC buckles, and I'll keep doing it unless I just feel like tossing some dough at those lightweight 'biners
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    Quote Originally Posted by HANGnOUT View Post
    I think I am going to try this with my next setup. Why not just eliminate the biners and run the strap thru the loop then to the rings?
    That would be lighter, but it would take longer to setup...this is just a wrap and a clip, where the would be a wrap and pull the webbing all the way through, then thread it through the buckle. Not a big difference, really...just preference.

    Maybe I'll get tired of the extra 2 oz for the biners and do it your way, though - that's how I used the Crazy Creek setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HANGnOUT View Post
    I think I am going to try this with my next setup. Why not just eliminate the biners and run the strap thru the loop then to the rings?
    This is what I've been doing too since I got the buckles. I have noticed that the strap is getting a little fuzzy at the loop and it can cinch down pretty tight some times, making it a little more difficult to loosen. The biner would prolly put less stress on the strap and loosen quicker and I can see it being a little quicker still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoikurt View Post
    This is what I've been doing too since I got the buckles. I have noticed that the strap is getting a little fuzzy at the loop and it can cinch down pretty tight some times, making it a little more difficult to loosen. The biner would prolly put less stress on the strap and loosen quicker and I can see it being a little quicker still.

    You might be able to reinforce the loop with more webbing. I'll let you guys argue the sticking weakening vs the 2nd layer webbing strength.
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    It's a good setup. I got mine and my sons converted recently. I used "D" rings and opted for webbing on both sides of the "D" rings though instead of cord. I also run the webbing around the tree and thru the loop before passing it back thru the rings. This really makes it easy for my young son. No knots or tying, and adjustment to sag or hammock height is so easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speyguy View Post
    It's a good setup. I got mine and my sons converted recently. I used "D" rings and opted for webbing on both sides of the "D" rings though instead of cord. I also run the webbing around the tree and thru the loop before passing it back thru the rings. This really makes it easy for my young son. No knots or tying, and adjustment to sag or hammock height is so easy.
    Where did you find load-rated D-rings? I've looked for those and haven't had any luck so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammock engineer View Post
    You might be able to reinforce the loop with more webbing. I'll let you guys argue the sticking weakening vs the 2nd layer webbing strength.
    The fuzzing at the webbing loop has not been a problem so far. Just something to keep an eye on.
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