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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooch View Post
    Cerberus, I use the ENO SingleNest for now. When I put my rign buckles in today, I took out the standard cord that was there for the biners and replaced it with 2.8mm Spyderline and tied it in the same configurations as the stock line, but with the ring buckles on the end. That means I have less distance between the hammock and buckle, so I don't have to worry about it affecting my sag. I'll have pics to come in the next couple day, still trying to finish up the details of this section hike and get ready for the trip to Charlotte.
    I thought about doing it that way, but I'm too chicken to remove the original cord for now. If the line I put on breaks, then I'm screwed. I might try it after I see your pics, and I get a good look at the knot that came with the ENO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberus View Post
    I thought about doing it that way, but I'm too chicken to remove the original cord for now. If the line I put on breaks, then I'm screwed. I might try it after I see your pics, and I get a good look at the knot that came with the ENO.
    I just cut the line. I'm not exactly sure what kind of line is stock with the ENO's, but if you ask me it appears to be some kind of nautical cordage. When I put the new line with the ring buckles into it, I ran it through in the same fashion and secured it with a double fisherman's knot (http://www.animatedknots.com/doublef...atedknots.com). I'm going to hang it for the first time some time late today after I get to Charlotte. I'll try and post pics from there if I can, depending on my mom's computer and its willingness to cooperate.

    On a separate note, many thanks to Headchange4U for sewing the loops on my straps. I really appreciate it HC, thanks a lot. And for anyone who's not met HC, he's an all around cool guy. I can't wait to start my sewing lessons sometime after vacation!
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    Hello All,
    I am new to the forum and have enjoyed perusing all the info contained here. I had a question regarding the weight comparisons of the different ways to lash your hammock to a tree. I wittled my HH down to 25 ounces with tarp and snake skins. I like the idea of the other lashing methods, that cleat thingy (the little light one), the ring buckle style, but I had a hard time telling if these options are lighter than just using the tree straps as provided by the manufacturer. Also is there any threads on here about the lightest hammocks?

    thanks adam

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    Quote Originally Posted by EL MONSTRO View Post
    Hello All,
    I am new to the forum and have enjoyed perusing all the info contained here. I had a question regarding the weight comparisons of the different ways to lash your hammock to a tree. I wittled my HH down to 25 ounces with tarp and snake skins. I like the idea of the other lashing methods, that cleat thingy (the little light one), the ring buckle style, but I had a hard time telling if these options are lighter than just using the tree straps as provided by the manufacturer. Also is there any threads on here about the lightest hammocks?
    Just Jeff's site has a page about hammock weights with links.

    Whether the different suspension options are lighter than the stock HH spectra depends on the model that you have. Some models have heavier spectra than others. For me, aside from possible weight savings considerations, I find that the versatility and convenience of their use makes the 'alternative' methods worth using.

    The cleats do look like a good option, but I'm going to stick with my ring/buckle setup. It is quick, light, and sturdy. Also, I wasn't a fan of the amount of stretch that I got from the stock spectra of my HH. To each their own, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    The cleats do look like a good option, but I'm going to stick with my ring/buckle setup. It is quick, light, and sturdy. Also, I wasn't a fan of the amount of stretch that I got from the stock spectra of my HH. To each their own, though.

    Welcome to the forum, El Monstro.
    angrysparrow - I find it interesting that the spectra you are using stretches. Normally spectra is a very low stretch fiber. I think I have read somewhere that it is less than 1%, but I could be mistaken on that. All the spectra I have used stretches so little that I haven't noticed any stretch at all, even the stock spectra on the HH. Interesting.

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    I was wondering about that myself...how many nights have you had in your HH? Mine stretched quite a bit for the first while, but then I stretched it on purpose and it stopped. In my experience Spectra in general has VERY little stretch, like TeeDee said.
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    The fabric on an HH stretches for the first few nights, but I doubt the Spectra is stretching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Jeff View Post
    The fabric on an HH stretches for the first few nights, but I doubt the Spectra is stretching.
    I've long since passed the fabric stretching period, having now spent about 40ish nights in it. The stretching was much greater through the first 6 or 7 nights (mostly the fabric I guess), but after that I would still have to retighten the spectra (to eliminate sag) after being in it for half an hour or so. At first I thought that it might have been the knots tightening up, but it was sagging more than that would allow for, so I think it had to be the Spectra. After 15 nights or so, I moved to the ring/buckle setup and haven't had any problem with it since.

    Some of the hangs that were particularly 'stretchy' were long (around 20ft between trees), so that may have had something to do with it.

    And no, I don't weigh 300lbs or anything. I weigh around 185, and it is a HH Deluxe Asym.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbishop351 View Post
    Mine stretched quite a bit for the first while, but then I stretched it on purpose and it stopped. In my experience Spectra in general has VERY little stretch, like TeeDee said.
    I never thought of 'force stretching' the hammock, aside from just using it. Maybe that would have solved my issue.

    How did you do that, BTW? Just pile heavy things in the hammock for a couple of days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    I never thought of 'force stretching' the hammock, aside from just using it. Maybe that would have solved my issue.

    How did you do that, BTW? Just pile heavy things in the hammock for a couple of days?
    Nah, I just spent about 3 hours taking care of it. Find a couple good strong trees, hang, tighten the everloving crap out of it, and lay in it for 15 minutes or so. Get out, check for slack, retighten and repeat as necessary.
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