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    This carabiner is 1 oz. and rated 20kn
    http://www.mountaingear.com/pages/pr...tem/112491/N/0
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    I've checked my biners every time to see if it has damaged the tree. Nothing yet. Probably depends on how it's set up...tree shape, size, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FanaticFringer View Post
    This carabiner is 1 oz. and rated 20kn
    http://www.mountaingear.com/pages/pr...tem/112491/N/0
    Looks like a clone of the CAMP Nano biner.
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    Rings attached to HH

    I've followed this thread with a lot of interest. My basic problem is that the rope supplied on my HH is 1600 lb test polyester, very stiff, and not suitable for attaching to the rings.

    I have some BPL AirCore Pro URSA, rated at 1400 lbs, very lightweight and flexible, and experimented with that. I cut some cords, put bowlines at both ends, and attached the rings by a larkshead, and around the hammock body just behind the Hennessy wrap knot. I found that a Prusik knot does a much better job of holding the rings together than the Larkshead. But the way I attached to the hammock is a hack, and I'm unclear what impact that has on the structural ridgeline. Furthermore quite a few posts on this thread suggest that unbalanced pull by one end of the cord on the rings may contribute to ring separation.

    So I cracked the cover on the Hennessy wrap to see what we've got.
    Here's what mine looked like

    http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery.../3/knots-1.jpg
    http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery.../3/knots-2.jpg

    The main line goes through the top hole (can't see this in the photos, the entry point is at the back), is wrapped three times downwards, run through a second hole (same orientiation as the first; the pictures show the exit point of the lower hole quite clearly)
    brought back up being tucked under the first wrap and passed through the
    (black) loop that anchors the structural ridgeline (this is seen clearly in the second photo). Then a bowline is tied around the line at the entry point (most easily seen in the first photo).

    My AirCore is a lot thinner, but I can solve two problems at the same time if I double it up---put even pressure on both cords forming the Prusik knot, and integrate the ring assembly into the HH layout. So I cut 4 ft of cord, put a Prusik knot around the rings at the center, then used the two ends in the same way as the fat line in the HH cord. Here's a picture of the rings, and the cord after being wrapped, but before the bowline tie-off.

    http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery.../3/knots-3.jpg

    I then tied off the end cords with a bowline. Had to slip some cord around to get the knot close to the hammock and without long tails. The AirCore is very smooth, and that part is easy. The nearly finished product looks like

    http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery.../3/knots-4.jpg

    All that's left is to cover the with caseing and secure that.

    I've quite enjoyed the various tips and experiences offered on the hammock forums. Thanks all.

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    Welcome to the site. Great first post. Tom Hennessy should switch to this set-up.
    Might be concerned with liability issues though. Not that I'm worried about slippage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyAdams View Post
    I've followed this thread with a lot of interest. I've quite enjoyed the various tips and experiences offered on the hammock forums. Thanks all.
    and i quite enjoyed your show mr adams... glad you discovered the hammock.
    ... just funnin of course. welcome to the group. ...tim
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    Quote Originally Posted by FanaticFringer View Post
    Welcome to the site. Great first post. Tom Hennessy should switch to this set-up.
    Might be concerned with liability issues though. Not that I'm worried about slippage.
    All the manufacturers should switch to this set up . . .

    But you're right HH's, Speer's, Claytor's, and other commercial setups are idiot proof. I heard a park ranger once say that if customers misuse a product, that's enough to ban a product. I think the dual ring system would prove idiot incompatible.
    Last edited by funbun; 05-07-2007 at 08:32.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funbun View Post
    All the manufacturers should switch to this set up . . .

    But your right, HH's, Speer's, Claytor's setups are idiot proof. I heard a park ranger once say that if customers misuse a product, that is enough to ban a product. I think the dual ring system would prove idiot incompatible.
    Yea I can hear it now. "Hey Dufus, I thought I heard you moaning last night." "Did you see a huge bear?" "No Einstein, I forgot to check them there ring thingies before I checked in for the night."
    Last edited by FanaticFringer; 05-06-2007 at 21:12.
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    Yeah, the rings have to be used properly. It is not difficult to use them, but a beginner would most likely hit the ground without proper knowledge. I did even with the knowledge, but that experience has convinced me to tie those knots every time.

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    Welcome Grizz, good post and pictures. That's almost exactly what I've done except my line is not doubled and I used an anchor hitch to connect to the rings. Good pictures illustrating the HH knot, though.
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