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    All in One System vs. Separate

    I'm thinking about switching out the stock suspension on my WBBB. I was wondering if I could get some help with some pros and cons towards these two options. Please let me know what you guys think would be the best option.

    Thanks!

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    Moderator raiffnuke's Avatar
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    Both are great systems....here are my thoughts.

    Are you a gram weenie? if so, then seperate might be your way to go.

    Do you want straight forward and simple? If so, then the All-in-One is the way to go. Plus, you can't forget anything on the tree!

    Do you like to tinker with your gear and try different options/new fangled gadgets (ie Dutch stuff)? Then seperate allows for all of the tinkering you want.

    That is just my $.02 and doesn't really answer any questions, but it gives you something to think about.

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    I use an all in one suspension, and recommend it. I can walk up, and hang up. My hang is dialed in, and I don't have to futz with too many adjustments.

    Pros:
    • Easy setup
    • Fixed adjustment (no need to re-adjust)
    • Easy take down
    • One bag
    • You don't forget your straps on a tree


    Cons:
    • Added weight of tarp tensioners
    • Tarp height is not adjustable
    • Need to place your straps high on the tree
    - William -

    How can a young man keep his way pure? By living according to your word. - Psalms 119:9

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    i like the all-in-one in any system i use whether it is webbing or whoopie. nothing worse then leaving something behind when packing up in the dark
    It's not procrastinating, its proactively delaying the implementation of the energy-intensive phase of the project until the enthusiasm factor is at its maximum effectiveness.

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    I think it depends on where you hang. I love the stock WBBB strap and buckle system for ease of hanging and would therefore lean to an all in one system, but if you hang where there are a lot of sticky pine trees, you have to deal with packing sticky straps back in your hammock bag. I switched to straps and whoopies just so I can pack my straps up in a small ziploc bag. I hope my memory isn't gone enough yet to forget my straps, but it seems to be getting worse every day.

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    I'm in agreement with all of the above. For a backpacker that is trying to keep bulk and weight to a minimum, and for those that want maximum adjustment capabilities, I'd recommend separate components. For ease of use, the All In One.

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    Thank you for all the quick replies! I will be sure to take everything into consideration.

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    Senior Member Str1der's Avatar
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    I have both, and they're both great!

    All-In-One
    -Generally simpler
    -No need for marlin spikes or toggles
    -Impossible to forget straps (it happens)
    -Comes with continuous loops and an aluminum ring built in as a water stop
    -Can handle virtually any tree diameter or spacing you will likely encounter

    Separate Huggers and Slings
    -Slightly lighter
    -Huggers detach from slings (some consider this a bonus)
    -Possible to mix and match different slings/huggers

    PM sent also.
    "The Road goes ever on and on,
    Down from the door where it began.
    Now far ahead the Road has gone,
    And I must follow, if I can.
    Pursuing it with eager feet
    Until it joins some larger way
    Where many paths and errands meet.
    And whither then? I cannot say."
    ~Bilbo Baggins - LotR

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    I have a custom suspension on order. I got the idea form Blackwolf when testing out his snipe a while back. I have the the tree huger sewn around the fixed eye of the whoopie and then instead of a ring at the other end I have a dutch hook on the continual loop on the hammock. I just attach it to the adjustable end and set my adjustment.

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