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    Pad or underquilt, and WHY?

    Im starting to DIY a hammock, and i want to know which type of insulation is best to use, so:

    Which did you choose and why?

    -Sleeping pad

    Or

    -Underquilt

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    I've used both and UQs are much more comfortable and warmer, IMO.
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    UQ's wrap around you so there is more coverage and therefore more warmth and I find them more comfortable. For down UQ's keeping them dry is extremely important.

    Pads retain moisture so its possible to end up with a moist back and they can shift positions on you and are a bit more difficult to readjust once in the hammock. Since they are narrower you can also end up with cold shoulders unless you fashion some pad extenders.
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    underquilts :)

    all of the above and they pack up much smaller than a given pad.
    but a lot of use use both at the same time.
    A lot of backpacks have a foam panel, part of the backpacks structure and load transfer system.
    One example of this is the ULA Ohm but the pad that comes in the OHM is smallish...so I subbed it out with a thinner pad that when unfolded gives me coverage from shoulders to hips...cheap way to increase the range of your UQ for little money and you're already carrying the weight anyway.

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    Quilts all the way.
    For all the reasons already pointed out above.
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    I use an underquilt beause used a pad first. Even though I put it in the pocket of the HHDJ, I couldn't get it to lay right, and was never comfortable.

    Had a UQ made from a mummy bag and oit was lke being hugged by my mother. Won't be going back to a pad.

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    Vinny, you're new to this so I will also add

    that for a pad to be wide enough to cover your shoulders it almost always has to be strapped to the outside of the pack...think 24-27 inches on average width to prevent CSW=cold shoulder wrap. When this monster is strapped to the outside it catches limbs/brush while your hiking.
    Normal Thermarest type pads can be packed in the backpack but they are rarely wide enough to prevent the CSW mentioned above.
    For years there was a product on the market called a Speer Pad Extender
    which allowed one to use your existing Thermarest or even too narrow a closed cell pad by slipping it into a central sleeve. Adjacent to this wide central sleeve (all made out of ripstop nylon) were smaller sleeves that would accept pads 4-6 inches wide---wings if you will. So the SPE had 4 wings on it because somethings you'd get CHW=cold hip wrap too.....these smaller pads would fit in the pack or strapped to the bottom of the pack since they were not so wide.
    Then the miracle of Jacks-R-Better with the introduction of the Nest and the rest is history!

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    I am at the PLUQ stage. I started with pads and found it frustrating. Always seemed to have a cold spot somewhere and they bunch up. I still carry a pad when the situation dictates. Just incase I have to go to ground or it's gonna be in the mid to low 30's. Then I just slip the pad in the PLUQ. I will be getting a UQ for white winter camping. Just haven't made a decision on which one yet.
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    Ever try catchin' a greased pig? That's a pad for me...Uqs all the way.
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    My forum name is Fish<><; I'm in the navy; and I hate sleeping on the ground. If I didn't need ground to walk on or measure resistance to, I think I could happily give it up.

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    Glad I saw this thread. I use a reflectix windshield protector as a "pad" for insulation right now. I don't do much winter hiking, coldest I've been out is 30 F at night. Definitely was cold but I have a very cheap sleeping bag and I'm sure that didn't help.

    I plan to stick with the reflectix pad and make anchor points like the HHDJ for a while. It does insulate enough for most situations I've been in.

    Maybe I'll eventually make a DIY down UQ but, I'll never pay for one I'm just too cheap for that.
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