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    I'm ready to go! Last night temp was 9 degrees and my gear kept me warm all night. My feet did feel cool around 5:30-6 but nothing unbearable. Friday night ill make sure I wear two sets of socks ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nj4x4fever View Post
    Noob Question here: Do you think a DIY-PLUQ, a 2QZQ UQ protector, a Blue CCF pad another Poncho Liner on top of the ccf then me on top of all that wearing thermal underwear, a knit hat, a HF buff, a pair of smart wool socks, a WW $3 Fleece Blanket and having a polyester filled sleeping bag for my TQ keep me warm in this extremely cold temps this weekend?

    I gathered up all my gear and did a little DIY in the past 2 weeks after finding out about this hang. My Tarp shelter also has 2 GrizzBeaks one on either end, I also have a HH Hex Fly.

    I will have some hand warmers and an extra 30* bag, and a thermal blanket I will leave in my truck if I need them later on.
    Lowest temp I slept through so far was 37*
    The only person that can truly answer your question is you and the only way to find the answer is to test it out. Just as a reference my sleep system is going to be a Zero rated Incubator with a 2QZQ UQP, A Zero Degree Burrow with a fleece liner, I will be wearing my Black Rock Zero rated down beanie, neoprene face mask, Balaclava, T-Shirt, A wool Mid Weight Base layer and possibly my Stoic Down Pullover if I'm really feeling chilly, on my legs I will be wearing a pair of heavy weight long johns and my Goose Feet Down Pants, on my feet will be expedition weight smart wool socks and Goose Feet Down Booties. On my hands I will be wearing smart wool liners and Black Rock Down Mittens. Now I would expect this system could take me down to the negatives but if I get to warm well their is always taking layers off and venting what I have on. Now this is only the clothing I will be wearing. What I have packed will be a whole different story with lots of extra long johns, long sleeve T Shirts, extra down jacket, extra socks, extra sweat shirts and did I mention I am also bringing the kitchen sink .

    What it really comes down to is knowing your gear and what it will do for you. My first winter hang I used a zero burrow and a zero phoenix and froze my but off because I did not hang my UQ correctly. The second night someone showed me some tricks of the trades and I was toasty warm.

    So I apologize for not having a straight forward yes/no answer for you but really only you can answer your own question.
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    Thanks for the info, I really do appreciate it.
    I guess I can give it a go this weekend, if it is too cold I can always either sleep in my truck or go home to a warm and comfy bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nj4x4fever View Post
    Noob Question here: Do you think a DIY-PLUQ, a 2QZQ UQ protector, a Blue CCF pad another Poncho Liner on top of the ccf then me on top of all that wearing thermal underwear, a knit hat, a HF buff, a pair of smart wool socks, a WW $3 Fleece Blanket and having a polyester filled sleeping bag for my TQ keep me warm in this extremely cold temps this weekend?

    I gathered up all my gear and did a little DIY in the past 2 weeks after finding out about this hang. My Tarp shelter also has 2 GrizzBeaks one on either end, I also have a HH Hex Fly.

    I will have some hand warmers and an extra 30* bag, and a thermal blanket I will leave in my truck if I need them later on.
    Lowest temp I slept through so far was 37*
    I'd slip one of the sleeping bags between your PLUQ and hammock, it'll give you an extra layer of insulation that way and we can always help you snug it up. Throw the pad inside the hammock and lay the fleece liner on top. Use the Thermal blanket and the other sleeping bag for your top quilt, keep the Poncho Liner handy should you need another layer for the top. I've taken a foam pad and a 20 degree bag down to 21 degrees in a lean to, I wasn't very cold but I wasn't comfortable either. Mainly the hard ground kept me up. I didn't see any gloves listed, you'll want to have a pair of those at night as well.

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    Help! I got turned around trying to find the camp. I'm looking at the Carranza memorial on my right. Did I pass it? Did I not go far enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joizee camper View Post
    Help! I got turned around trying to find the camp. I'm looking at the Carranza memorial on my right. Did I pass it? Did I not go far enough?
    Continue up the road, there should be a turn off about a thousand feet or so on your left. If you come to a four way intersection you've gone to far.

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    Thanks Fishbait!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nj4x4fever View Post
    Thanks for the info, I really do appreciate it.
    I guess I can give it a go this weekend, if it is too cold I can always either sleep in my truck or go home to a warm and comfy bed.
    IMHO (very humble) you might want to bring any extra bags or blankets because a sleeping rated at 30º is only good for 50º. my (again,humble) rule of thumb is to gauge a bag 20º lower than it's rated. zero bag for 20º, etc.
    just wanted to say, 'cause we all want everyone warm and have a nice time with GREAT people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nj4x4fever View Post
    Thanks for the info, I really do appreciate it.
    I guess I can give it a go this weekend, if it is too cold I can always either sleep in my truck or go home to a warm and comfy bed.
    i have a 40 degree under quilt and 20 degree top quilt extra you can add to that.
    It's not procrastinating, its proactively delaying the implementation of the energy-intensive phase of the project until the enthusiasm factor is at its maximum effectiveness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayak karl View Post
    i have a 40 degree under quilt and 20 degree top quilt extra you can add to that.
    I really appreciate it!
    I just got 3 more Poncho liners in the mail today, I am making my Poncho Liner underquilts tonight. 2 Poncho liners and all my blankets, and 2 sleeping bags I hope will be enough.

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