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    Senior Member Tendertoe's Avatar
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    You could put zippers on all 3 openings.

    You could put shock cord cinches on all 3 openings.

    You could put Omni-Tape on all 3 openings.

    You could do any combination of zippers, and/or shock cord, and/or Omni-Tape on all 3 openings.


    In a nutshell, I prefer to have a way to get out the bottom quickly and easily as well as a way to easily slide the bug net off a fully loaded hammock to access things, setup/take down quilts, etc.

    This mod fit the bill.

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    I just sketched out a bug net with the head room I want utilizing material from the foot cut ... but inverted so that the net is tarp height and thus generously wide over 3/5 the length and tapering to the foot for the last 2/5. At the head is the diamond-shaped dual panel of no-see-um with Velcro closure in the middle. The side/bottom panel of cheap light material then has the Fronkey elastic cord opening, having been cut just as his excellent video demonstrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDSH View Post
    I just sketched out a bug net with the head room I want utilizing material from the foot cut ... but inverted so that the net is tarp height and thus generously wide over 3/5 the length and tapering to the foot for the last 2/5. At the head is the diamond-shaped dual panel of no-see-um with Velcro closure in the middle. The side/bottom panel of cheap light material then has the Fronkey elastic cord opening, having been cut just as his excellent video demonstrated.
    I'd be interested to see this as I'm having a hard time envisioning it.

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    Nice mod Tendertoe! Makes a lot of sense to me.

    I considered this bug net, but thought it would likely not be compatible with my unusual hammock design, so I went with the TED by Pipsissewa. Both systems are great. Your mod makes this design even more user friendly. What creative minds we have on this forum!

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    The net is supported by the tarp ridge line rather than the hammock ridge line. Fronkey discarded the material from his 20% cuts on both ends. I cut only the foot end 45 degrees and turn the thing upside down, so to speak. I now have four pieces of bug net, two small and two large.

    Using the two small pieces, construct a diamond behind your head, joining the hypotenuse of the two pieces with Velcro, through which will pass the hammock suspension when closed and allow for full acces to the hammock when open. The top point of the diamond will get some way to fasten it to the tarp ridge line and the side points some way to guy it out. The bottom of the diamond will be drawn back under the hammock with the shock cord.

    The two large pieces of bug net are sewn together on the edge with the 45 degree angle cut away do that it heads down from the tarp ridge line to the foot. I'd trim it back a little more to get the 60/40 aesthetic curve from ridge to foot. There is a second attachment point at that angle so that for 60% of it's length the top of the bug net is level with the world via the ridge line then the last 40% tapers to the junction of hammock and supension.

    At the head sew the bug net to the top two sides of the diamond since they will be the same length.

    Now, we've used all the bug net but have not enclosed the space. We need more material. It needs to be light and easily drawn closed by Fronkey's shock cord method once it is cut, sewn to its host bug net, and strung with the cord. This part could be pieced together according to your own shape and size of undercarriage. It does not matter because your top is well ventilated by the large diamond behind your head. The bugs can't get even close to your head or elbows.

    As I think about it again the underpanels would be well served, again, by stretchy fabric along with the shock cord. But almost anything would work that would close with the shock cord and not let in the bugs.

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    MDSH I can't wait to see this thing because I'm still not picturing it.

    Hope it works out.

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    Need to put it together, I guess

    Quote Originally Posted by Tendertoe View Post
    MDSH I can't wait to see this thing because I'm still not picturing it.

    Hope it works out.
    Thanks, Tender. I hope soon to put one together.

    The bug net thing was making me crazy because I've not seen one yet that would work: the purpose is to keep the bugs away! My dad was an architect, who always said that form follows function.

    Hammock models sold on line and/or featured here would allow the wee beasties to feast on any elbow, arm, knee, or toe that dared venture outside the perimeter of the hammock. In warm weather where insects flourish we have an equal need to evaporate sweat for cooling so need to hang parts of ourselves out in well-ventilated space. It seems to me that we have to re-create the principle of a Southern screened-in porch. That means structural elements besides mere gravity and some elasticity.

    The shock cord ideas by TED and Fronkey are great as far as they go. The entry/exit purpose is brilliantly fulfilled. What's critical, though, is guying out or spreading the material away from critical parts of the body like face, hands, feet, and knees. A diamond behind the head made of the cut-away parts of Fronkey's system seemed like a solution because it would 1) provide ventilation, and 2) define the space that continues 60% of the way and then tapers eventually to the foot.

    Right now I'm thinking that the top entry of TED is better.

    Yes, we'll see how it works.
    Last edited by MDSH; 08-26-2012 at 13:57. Reason: to add a remark

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    Great Mod! The thing about a wonderful community is they take one members great idea and put there own twist on them improving it. This is how products are evolved.
    See You In The Trees
    & Keep It Hanging

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Laochri?feature=watch

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    MDSH,

    If all you're looking for is more elbow room, check out the ridgeline and side pullout mod I whipped up using the same Fronkey design. It provides quite a substantial increase in interior room and can allow you to hang an arm or leg out of the hammock without having it unprotected.

    Last edited by Tendertoe; 08-26-2012 at 16:40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendertoe View Post
    MDSH,

    If all you're looking for is more elbow room, check out the ridgeline and side pullout mod I whipped up using the same Fronkey design. It provides quite a substantial increase in interior room and can allow you to hang an arm or leg out of the hammock without having it unprotected.

    I like it!!! So much more room with just inches of guying up and out. Did you notice that the view was better, too?

    Very cool, Tender. Thank you!

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