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    There once was a lad who was humbled
    For shortening the bury on his Brummel
    The inches he saved
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    For this lad ended up on his bummel
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaSmurf View Post
    Samson's recommended bury is 42 times the diameter of the cord.
    7/64" = 4.59" + 2.29" taper
    1/8" = 5.25" + 2.625" taper
    Samson Rope claims a 90% to 100% strength with the lengths above.

    I spoke with someone just last Friday who pulled a set of whoopies to failure using these specs.
    Result: the rope failed (not on a splice) at the exact rating of the rope.

    Since we hangers do not normally reach this maximum strength of Amsteel, many feel that the length of the buries can be shortened.

    How much can they be shortened?
    I bury all my suspension eyes a minimum of 4" (when using a locked brummel). I've never had a failure yet and am not interested in finding this lower limit.


    Thanks, when making anything with 7/64 amsteel I measure 6" for the bury, and then make the taper about 1 to 1 1/2. So my total length is the 6" with about 4 1/2" to 5" being full diameter bury. I haven't had any slippage or failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayDog View Post
    There once was a lad who was humbled
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayDog View Post
    There once was a lad who was humbled
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    The inches he saved
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    For this lad ended up on his bummel
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    I think a copy of it will go on the wall in my workshop/gear room!
    Nah, not enough honor. I'm thinking... TATOO!
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    Bury Length

    PapaSmurf:

    Does your 4" bury also include the taper? How long is your taper and the overall bury?


    Quote Originally Posted by PapaSmurf View Post
    Samson's recommended bury is 42 times the diameter of the cord.
    7/64" = 4.59" + 2.29" taper
    1/8" = 5.25" + 2.625" taper
    Samson Rope claims a 90% to 100% strength with the lengths above.

    I spoke with someone just last Friday who pulled a set of whoopies to failure using these specs.
    Result: the rope failed (not on a splice) at the exact rating of the rope.

    Since we hangers do not normally reach this maximum strength of Amsteel, many feel that the length of the buries can be shortened.

    How much can they be shortened?
    I bury all my suspension eyes a minimum of 4" (when using a locked brummel). I've never had a failure yet and am not interested in finding this lower limit.

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    I lock the locked brummel with a soak of superglue!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDSH View Post
    I lock the locked brummel with a soak of superglue!
    Probably just creating a point of failure.

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    Probably just creating a point of failure.
    +1

    I tend to trust the manufacturer's guidelines considering the stresses this product is designed for.
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