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    Question pirmaloft UQ

    Are there any manufactured underquilts? I know down is great, but in a kayak things can get wet. I want to go with pirmaloft, but I haven't seen any TQs or UQs.

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    Arrowhead Equipment makes a Climashield UQ. Molly Mac another synthetic UQ mfr

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    primaloft UQ

    I have a primaloft Cocoon brand "over bag" . It's 2 pounds. It keeps me warm by itself, wearing long underwear to 45 degrees. The loft, or thickness of the said Cocoon overbag is not stated, but I suspect it to be about 3/4". It is certainly good for at least the additional temperature rating, when used with a sleeping bag. It does add to a bag. It's compressed volume is acceptable as opposed to down. But, for a ratio of weight to temperature, I don't think just using Primaloft is any advantage over down. Don't get me wrong, I use Primloft in other cold items, like mittens for very cold cycling, but, because of the weight, Primaloft for me doesn't add up for cold weather quilts, and underquilts. But, that's just my opinion, and experience with Primaloft.
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    Well, here I go again: 2.5 oz ( I.E. ~ 1 sq.yd of 2.5 oz/sq.yd ) of CS XP has kept me warm into the high 40s, in a WB Yeti sized torso UQ. I think that is spectacular, and I am still a bit unbelieving that that was my result. ( wearing nothing but cotton t-shirt and jeans plus ~ 45F TQ EDIT: and a fleece hat )

    Does any one really think that 2.5 oz of 800 FP down in a torso UQ would do any better than that? Plus you would need baffles for more weight. So I really think that, at the least CS is way more competitive with 800+ down than most of us realize. Not in volume/bulk maybe, but in warmth to weight, a lot closer seems to me. And this does not even consider moisture differences.

    AHE makes CS UQs. I highly suspect that they are rated way conservative, I should get one some day and find out. I suspect Primaloft is very similar to CS with some pros and cons, Certainly it's CLO rating is very similar, and it laughs at water. As does CS in my experience. But I know of no one making a Prima loft UQ or TQ. Maybe some one should!
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    I have taken my DIY primaloft UQ down to 26 degrees and been fine. it's made of a sheet of 3oz per yard and a sheet of 4 oz per yard if i remember correctly. You could easily make one with a single sheet of 6oz per yard primaloft for relatively cheap. Last i checked http://therainshed.com/ had the best price on primaloft. could be a fun project. i don't know of any manufacturers that make them though. if you can't make one yourself you might look into having someone here custom make one for you. just a thought.
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    Thanks for the info everyone. I'll follow up on it. I'm planning a long paddling trip (2-3 months), Platt, Missouri, Mississippi. I expect things will get wet at times. Weight isn't an issue, but space is. Ideas welcome.

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    You could use a closed cell pad and synthetic sleeping bag, or reflectix homemade pad. But they make some dry bags (and even ones that taper to fit in the end of the kayak) that will 100% keep things dry even if dunked

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    Sounds like a fun trip ibgary. I hope you blog about it. I would love to get in my boat and do the same one day.

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    I don't know how you can beat down.

    Those waterproof bags will keep it dry, right?

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