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    Underground Quilts - Thermal Reactor

    Hi Everyone.

    I've only been hammock camping for a little over a year now, and I've been loving it. I hike and camp all year long, which in New York state, means that you had better like camping in the cold and snow!

    Last winter was, of course, unusually mild. I went hammock camping last winter during one of our only snow storms. It got down to 17 degrees and it was very windy and snowy. However, mild winters are pretty unusual. In the Adirondacks, below 0 temperatures are not unusual. This year I wanted to be ready for whatever mother nature can throw my way.

    I saw that Paul at Underground Quilts had a shipment of Resist Down which has a hydrophobic treatment. I was excited to try this on a cold weather quilt, because I've found that perspiration can affect loft, especially in the winter.

    I was interested in having something that would protect me down to -20F without having to layer quilts. When camping in the winter, I want to be able to set up quickly. Since tarps are more complicated than tents, I didn't want any more complication with quilts. I e-mailed Paul about my ideas for some super warm, sub zero quilts. After a few e-mail exchanges, we came up with the concept for the Thermal Reactor.

    For the Thermal Reactor, we settled on a 1.1 RS outer shell and an M50 inner shell, utilizing the new Resist Down. I was interested in the M50 inner shell more for its additional wind and water resistant properties when compared with 1.1 RS - trying to keep moisture out of the down in order to maintain loft. Most of my quilts are green, so for something different, I went with a Platinum (silver) outer shell, with a black inner shell (the M50). If I get a sunny day, the black inner shell will be ideal to get some drying from the sun.

    I asked Paul to put a draft collar on the top quilt. Something that is on all of my sleeping bags, but a first for quilts from what I've seen. Paul made the draft tubes extra large and knocked it out of the park.

    Here are some specs for those of you that like such things:

    Top Quilt:
    Dual Diff Cut with 4 1/2" nanomesh baffles
    M50 Black Inner
    1.1 DWR Platinum Outer
    Contrasting Stitch Work (Black on Platinum outside, Platinum on Black inside)
    25 oz Hydrophobic Down
    Oversized Down Draft Collars
    Sewn Foot Box

    Under Quilt:
    Dual Diff Cut 4 1/2" nanomesh baffles
    M50 Black Inner
    1.1 DWR Platinum Outer
    Contrasting Stitch Work
    4 1/2" Nanomesh Baffles
    24 oz 850FP Hydrophobic Down
    Oversized Down Draft Collars

    The finished quilts are awesome. They are big, but they stuff in a 10"x20" stuff sack and weigh a hair over 5 pounds. Slightly bigger stuffed size and a pound heavier than my 0 Marmot Col sleeping bag.

    I'll attach some images below to show some comparisons. Folded, the quilts have 9 inches of loft. The top quilt has 10 inches of loft nearer the foot, which I'm happy with because my feet get cold easily. You can see in the photos, that Paul also put a draft tube on the foot box so that there won't be any cold feet on this camper ! The top quilt is compared side-by side with my 20 burrow which has about 4 1/2 inches of loft. The underquilt is compared side-by-side with my 0 incubator which has about 5" of loft at the head end. The difference in the size of the draft tubes is dramatic. The Thermal Reactor's draft tubes are twice as big. There is also a photo of my Marmot Col compared to the top quilt. It's hard to tell from the photo, but the Marmot Col has about 6" of loft.

    Bring on the cold!
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    That is some Heavy Duty winter firepower you are carrying there! Quite impressive. Did I read that right? 24 oz of down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon360 View Post
    That is some Heavy Duty winter firepower you are carrying there! Quite impressive. Did I read that right? 24 oz of down?
    Yes indeed. That's twice as much as what is in a normal 20 UQ.

    I'm sure this would work fine for our northern neighbors as well (hint).

    David

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    Awesome quilts,,I really love Paul's work at Underground Quilts and so does the wife. Workmanship is great and so is his products. You will enjoy your new downy goodness with lots of pleasure I am sure. Happy Hanging!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon360 View Post
    That is some Heavy Duty winter firepower you are carrying there! Quite impressive. Did I read that right? 24 oz of down?
    24 oz of down X 2! ( +1 oz of draft collar) 49 oz of down, 9+ inches of loft(top+bottom), or more maybe, 9" is the baffles. Holy cow! My 20F PeaPod has 19 oz of 927 down, total top and bottom insulation. Sounds like minus 20 will be easily accomplished.
    For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
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    Oh Boy that was a fun project for sure. UQ with draft collars has a total of 26 oz and TQ with neck draft collar and foor draft tube, which was installed to protect seam between footbox plug and TQ proper, has a total of 28 oz. The picture of the draft tube in the foot box is with the footbox turned inside out. All 850FP Hydrophobic down and -20*F or lower should be warm and toasty with proper setup...

    Great pics, thanks for taking time to post them and give a quick review...
    Last edited by sr1355; 10-15-2012 at 20:15.
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    Thanks again Paul!

    I'm looking forward to doing a video review of them soon.

    David

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    I'm pretty sure I know who is single-handedly responsible for global warming . Outstanding piece of gear Paul and congrats on a fantastic (and of course, warm) set of quilts adkphoto.
    Syb
    Enjoy the elevation

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    Sweet downy goodness!

    When the temp drops and you are ready to head out and test those babies out in some serious cold, give me a shout and I'll join you.

    dT

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    Kinda' adds a new meaning to "Loft"
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