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    Quote Originally Posted by FishinFinn View Post
    Shipping is a killer for just 4 buckles.
    I've been successful in calling in orders to OnRope1 in the past and requesting USPS shipping. That might be your best bet.
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    Thanks, I'll try it tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustardman View Post
    There is another type of cinch buckle, which is even more secure than these, that is used in newer climbing harnesses. I am currently trying to find a supplier for these buckles, and if I can find someone who sells them I will let you all know.

    http://www.singingrock.cz/article.as...&nLanguageID=2
    Cinch buckles are plenty secure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FanaticFringer View Post
    Cinch buckles are plenty secure.
    Perhaps, but I'm a climber and I get weird about weight-bearing stuff.

    Plus, the way these buckles load is really handy - you don't have to feed anything through, just make a bight of webbing, slip it into the opening, and pull. They are also super-smooth to tighten.

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    Spyderline

    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    Spyderline is what I've used in the past.
    1/8 th inch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayak karl View Post
    1/8 th inch?
    For suspension purposes I actually prefer 5/32", but the 1/8" should be strong enough. It might require another loop in the buckle prussik, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustardman View Post
    Plus, the way these buckles load is really handy...
    Those buckles seem to be intended for use with webbing on both 'sides'. That isn't the typical application with the other cinch buckles, where cording is used from the hammock end channel or whipping to the buckle where it is attached with a modified prussik. You could certainly use them, but it would require changing the rigging a little bit.
    Last edited by angrysparrow; 11-14-2008 at 07:28.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    For suspension purposes I actually prefer 5/32"
    Ditto on that.
    but the 1/8" should be strong enough.
    Last fall I was using 1/8" Spyderline on my suspension, and it snapped at a knot. I was using what folks now call a single-line-suspension (SLS), integrated suspension line and ridgeline, and had it cranked up pretty tightly. Sat down per my usual "test this gently" after hanging, and pop! Down I went.

    I think probably that the high tension put me over the edge on what the rope would take. I don't do that anymore, but I also use higher rated cord these days too.

    Grizz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Take-a-knee View Post
    I wonder if those cinch buckles work okay with that one inch poly webbing Ed Speer sells?
    That's what I used with mine. No problems.

    Re: the Rock and Lock buckles...lots of folks use biners on the tree end, so you only load the buckle once...everything else is just loosening/tightening to adjust. In that regard, the Rock and Lock would actually be more cumbersome to use. But if you don't use a biner so you're threading it for every setup, the Rock and Lock might be more convenient.

    Re: the weight-bearing...the cinch buckles are stamped metal. You'd have to be snuggling with a grizzly to stress them, and I promise the 1" webbing will fail first. Never heard of a cinch buckle failing on a hammock yet. But I certainly wouldn't recommend you doing something you're not comfortable with...at the least, it would result in a poor night's sleep as you think about your suspension and that's not what hammocks are about!!
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