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    Re: Help with Superfly suspension

    Quote Originally Posted by harrellt View Post
    what about using separate lines on the ridge without Dutchware (not in the budget yet)? Are there homemade varieties that have worked for you guys and gals? Or maybe some variation that leaves the separate RL's attached to the tarp? I just received my superfly and spool of zing it and plan on using it next week for 4 days on the river. This thing is suh-weet!
    Of course you can do it without bling, the bling just makes things a tidbit easier; it just replaces knots. That said, there are myriad ways to do it. Brandon uses a buntline hitch, from what I can remember. Knots are all personal preference, but I would recommend going around the tree, back to the tarp and tying there, so you get a triangle your hammock suspension can pass through without rubbing the tarp suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrellt View Post
    what about using separate lines on the ridge without Dutchware (not in the budget yet)?
    I have a Warbonnet Edge that I use most of the time (we also have a Superfly that my son mostly uses). I rig it using Braided Mason's Line like this:

    Two half hitches to the ridgeline ring on one end of the tarp,
    Around the tree,
    back to the ring,
    through the ring,
    tie a Tautline Hitch on the line back to the tree.

    Same thing on both ends. Each to tighten/loosen and to center the tarp over the hammock. Works really well for me.

    My guylines are more complex, but use a similar principal:

    Braided Mason's Line, tie a Bowline to the D-ring,
    to the stake (I use MSR Groundhogs),
    then tie a Tautline Hitch to tighten her up.

    I have self-tensioning guylines on the Edge, but still use the same knots, I just pull the shockcord tight when I'm adjusting my tautline hitch.
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  3. #13
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    Harelit: Brandon covers setting up the Tarp without hardware very well. ( in the video above) I also learned from him how to store guyline so it won't tangle.

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    Senior Member OldRagFreeze's Avatar
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    I pitch my Superfly exactly the way Brandon recommends in that video... Works perfectly for me.

    Thanks Brandon!
    "We're the Sultans of Swing."

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    I don't recommnd any ridgeline, just line from the end of the tarp to the tree.

    here's a link to our basic tarp setup video: http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/setup.php

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    Senior Member OldRagFreeze's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbonnetguy View Post
    I don't recommnd any ridgeline, just line from the end of the tarp to the tree.

    here's a link to our basic tarp setup video: http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/setup.php
    Yup, that's exactly the way I do it...

    "We're the Sultans of Swing."

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    Here's how I've got my rigged up as of now. I used to use the dutch bling, but I just use knots on my ridgeline now and like it a lot.

    If you ain't havin' fun, you're doin' it wrong

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    I love the lineloc 3's. I know you have to use something a little larger than zing-it for it to hold really well but I don't mind. I use the nite-ize reflective cord...you can get 50' on amazon for like $8. Works perfect in the linelocs. I added 1/2" grosgrain loops to all my linelocs so I can just add them to any tarp using a larkshead style...just wrap it around the tie out and back through itself. At the ridgeline ends I tie a bowline in the cord and larkshead it to the split ring. Then I wrap the free end around the tree and come back through a lineloc that I also have on the split ring. Centers easily and hold super tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoundMan View Post
    I have recent installed a 2QZQ pole mod and really like it. The pole opens up some nice space and provides needed rigidity in the weather.
    Is this pole mod worth getting? I have heard nothing but great stuff about it, but I don't use trek poles. Do you need a set of trekking poles to work the pole mod? Or would some thin branches work? How long did it take to get back from 2qzq. ( Sorry, this should really be in the 2QZQ forum, but I guess it refers to my SuperFly)

    Just picked up some braided mason line, going to try out the clove hitch method of shock cord tie outs. Only problem is, the line is hot pink. Anyone know if you can use Rit fabric dye on nylon? It seems in theory that it would work, but you never know.

    Thanks....
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    Brandon (and others):

    When you say you don't recommend a tarp ridgeline, why is that? I've been using a continuous ridgeline over the top of my Cloudburst since I got it. Will doing that somehow harm the tarp?

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