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    good info.

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    I agree that the No Sniveller from the Jacks works quite well as an UQ, despite having cross-wise baffles. However, down does shift over time in any baffle that's not level. For that reason, my next insulated hammock will have baffles in more than one direction because the under surface curves in two directions.
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    In this way where the hammock slopes the most the baffles will be running across the slope like contour plowing.

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    WV, you're always thinking outside the box (or baffle in this case)!
    So where do your head and feet lie? In the dashed areas?
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    I copied the JRB design. That means lateral baffles.

    my cloning motto is "imitate the best."
    grinder

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    who is jrb?

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    JRB =

    Jacks R better a vendor of many thing hammock related.

    http://www.jacksrbetter.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanging pirate View Post
    JRB =

    Jacks R better a vendor of many thing hammock related.

    http://www.jacksrbetter.com/
    I did not notice that JRB are perpendicular to the ridge line. Thanks for pointing this out. Now back to the drawing board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    I agree that the No Sniveller from the Jacks works quite well as an UQ, despite having cross-wise baffles. However, down does shift over time in any baffle that's not level. For that reason, my next insulated hammock will have baffles in more than one direction because the under surface curves in two directions.
    _______________
    _______________ l . l . l . l . l
    _______________ l . l . l . l . l
    _______________ l . l . l . l . l
    l . l . l . l . l _______________
    l . l . l . l . l _______________
    l . l . l . l . l _______________ (Ignore the dots in the cross-wise tubes; it's the only way I could get the lines spaced correctly.)

    In this way where the hammock slopes the most the baffles will be running across the slope like contour plowing.
    Quote Originally Posted by MAD777 View Post
    WV, you're always thinking outside the box (or baffle in this case)!
    So where do your head and feet lie? In the dashed areas?
    Right! I realized after I posted that the baffle orientation was wrong for someone who lies left to right as I do, so the diagram shows the layout as viewed from the bottom.

    In applying this pattern to an insulated hammock, the whole grid would be angled slightly so the long tubes are parallel with the asym lie. I don't have a problem with down settling in the cross-wise tubes next to my left shoulder and right foot because I use outside pockets at those locations for down jacket, etc. to provide a couple of extra inches of insulation outside the hammock where it can't be compressed. (I was pretty pleased about "inventing" these pockets a couple of years ago, but then I found that Risk had done much the same thing some years before with his "wind buffer" pockets to keep his hammock sock from being blown against the hammock. Now they're showing up again as Warbonnet's "saddlebags". All arrived at independently, no doubt. "Great minds ..." etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wlaroche View Post
    I did not notice that JRB are perpendicular to the ridge line. Thanks for pointing this out. Now back to the drawing board.
    Something to note about that as well is that the perpendicular baffles simplify the construction of a dual-use quilt that turns into a serape (the head hole can go between two baffled chambers which then fall in front of and behind the neck). Not sure if it would be as easy to do with longitudinal baffles, and it sure would cause issues with down migration when you were wearing the quilt in serape mode.

    Just a thought...
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    Hey Fish, was gonna reply to your thread on NB but don't know etiquette on posting links to other forums Anyway, have you thought about a Karo underquilt... HERE'S a link.

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