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    best thing is to hit garage sales, or your local bookoo site, for a 1980s or older Singer with metal parts inside (take off the cover to see what i mean... 90s and later have plastic gears). Run about $50, and will last forever. make sure you get, or can get (online) the manual for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblinrev View Post
    That way you _know_ what you are getting and have a relationship with the dealer so you can lick their brain if problems crop up.
    Been watching too many zombie shows me thinks

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    [QUOTE=MrDieselTwitch;855828]all though I get strange looks walking around Joann's! Oh well..

    They'll get used to seeing you there at JoAnns. Especially if you tell them you are looking for 'man fabric' it will earn you some respect. The sewing class teacher at JoAnns can provide a great deal of advice, with out your actually having to take a class if you happen to catch the person in the store. Some times there is an associate who knows how to sew, but, don't count on that.

    Used sewing machines are not hard to find, thrift stores, yard sales, etc. Any thing from the 70's or earlier is better than anything now, at least the affordable machines made now. It's the best option, as opposed to paying hundreds of dollars for a new machine, just to sew hiking equipment.
    Never more than one man left behind, so far !

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    Quote Originally Posted by TallPaul View Post
    Been watching too many zombie shows me thinks
    LOL my oldest son must have been on line when that went up.
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

    "Bless you child, when you set out to thread a needle don't hold the thread still and fetch the needle up to it; hold the needle still and poke the thread at it; that's the way a woman most always does, but a man always does t'other way."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seeker View Post
    a 1980s or older Singer with metal parts inside (take off the cover to see what i mean... 90s and later have plastic gears).
    Unfortunately it is not that simple. The early plastic gears were often hidden inside the machine and required almost complete dis-assembly to detect. Listen very carefully to the machine as it runs. The plastic gears of that era wear differently than the metal gears and will make clicks, clacks and pops that sound different than the rest of the machine. If you hear those, instead of a nice smooth whirr run, do not walk, the other way. That is an indication the machine is likely to self implode and there is nothing you can do about it. Just opening the cover and seeing metal gears is not enough for the late sixties through the nineties.

    The plastics used in machinery has evolved since those days and do not present the same issues on high quality machines. However, I would still choose metal over plastics if I had the choice.
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

    "Bless you child, when you set out to thread a needle don't hold the thread still and fetch the needle up to it; hold the needle still and poke the thread at it; that's the way a woman most always does, but a man always does t'other way."
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    This is the one I have and where I bought it, but its a DC2010,,, every year they change the # to year...
    Never had a issue and whatever u get,,, get some kind of quilting table attachment, really helps alot...
    http://www.sewingmachinesplus.com/janome-dc2012.php

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