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    DIY vs purchased: Cost savings?

    So I'm looking to make a hammock, and put together a preliminary material list. Using the plans from the diy gear supply site, as well as their prices, I've come up with numbers that are close to what I would spend on new gear. Considering all the effort involved, and the risk of failure (I'm not adept at using the wife's thread injector), am I going the right route? Or am I missing some serious cost-cutting that I could be doing? Right now I'm looking at $100 for materials just for a single-layer hammock and tarp, and I'm not even warm yet!

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    Can you give us a break down of items and cost?
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    Just going from the materials list from the DIY projects.

    3.5 yd rs nylon $14
    2 yd draw cord .50
    12' tech line 2
    6' amsteel 1/64 1.50
    thread 3.65
    Hammock total 21.65

    7 yd silnylon 43.75
    1 yd oxford nylon 4
    4' 3/4 nylon webbing 1
    6 d-rings .60
    Tarp total 49.35

    EDIT I forgot the straps
    30' 1: poly web $12
    4 Al rings 11
    Last edited by darkbyrd; 11-19-2012 at 21:23.

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    Yes, provide some more information and we can help you sort through the project. Some materials are inherently most costly. I sourced out some fabric, netting, and a cheap 8x10 tarp to make hammock kits for my entire Boy Scout troop. Each "kit" worked out to about $30 _per kit_. It was amazing.

    BUT, those were using some pretty inexpensive fabrics. The goal was complete cost savings. Papa Smurf helped source the materials and he did a yoman's job finding deals, even sourcing some straps from a local Amish group.

    When I made my own hammock, using the same pattern but with better materials (lighter ripstop nylon, lighter no-see-um netting, etc.) the costs went up.

    Materials List

    1 20ft x 1in polyester webbing straps
    1 54 132" (1.4 3.4 m) no-see-um bug netting
    1 60 132" (1.5 3.4 m) ripstop nylon or polyester fabric
    2 8" (1.25 20 cm) elastic ribbon
    1 6' (1.8 m) #3 YKK zipper (w/double pull)
    2 60" (1.5 m) of 3/32" shock cord
    2 36" (91 cm) 3mm Spectra rope
    — Outdoor polyester thread

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    In my particular case, the only way I've been able to justify DIY is when I want something that I can't readily buy or the project involved is pretty straight forward. Ie my 2 bridge hammocks that I made. There wasn't anything available that had 36" spreader bars and made from crinkle polyester taffeta material. So I had to bite the bullet and do it myself. Fun project, BTW.

    Unless you can get your materials very inexpensively and don't place a value on the time involved, DIY can produce some cost savings. For most it doesn't work out that way. For the time involved, some do if for the sake of learning a new skill, others do it because they have the time available.

    There are many threads on the merits of DIY vs. buying. It comes down to the points I mentioned above.

    Cheers

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    I got my 1st hammock for fathers day and started using an old ground cloth as my 1 st tarp. Since then I've made a larger tarp and then bought a Kelty, Noahs tarp 12x12. So far the things I've made have been workable, but if I'm out by myself for 30-60 days next summer, either my sewing will get a lot better or ill buy what I need. I like making gear, I just hate spending money on diy projects that turn out, how shall I say???? I'm afraid my diy gear may fall apart after a week of hard use.

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    That's not bad. Although, if the Amsteel is for Whoopie Slings, you'll need more like 24 feet for two, six foot slings. You'll probably also need another spool of thread and seam sealer for the tarp and (optional) some no-see-um netting for a bug net. Also, zing-it or tech line for your tarp suspension.


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    Sometimes the experience is worth more than the expense.

    Sometime the expense is not worth the experience.

    The price you listed is not bad, and is pretty far off from a complete kit brand new from a vendor. Your tarp is the kicker, but you opted for silnylon, which can get expensive quick. I'd say the expense is right on par.

    The question becomes are you ready for the experience?

    I would offer that you buy a couple of yards of the cheapest fabric you're willing to buy (JoAnn's, Hancock, etc), and start out by making stuff sacks and the sort so you can get some lightweight work under your belt. That will help you figure out if doing the whole gig is worth it for you or not.

    My personal experience is that I enjoy sewing and making gear, but I absolutely hate putting in in-ground sprinkler systems - both of which are DIY jobs that I've tackled in times past. One of which I will never do again even if you paid me to...

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    If you take DIY as a journey... play with this, experiment with that, etc... it's not cheaper.

    If you count your time as free, then it can be cheaper, but not by much... most of the time, our cottage manufacturers are buying fabrics, down, etc, at wholesale...

    John
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    To me the DIY is about pride.
    Yep I made that!
    Just the other day I showed one of the guys at the Fire dept my bud light beer bottle stove
    Tonight he had this big ol grin on his face because he made one also.

    My stove is not pretty by no means
    But I am happy with it.

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