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    Dutch clips are pretty sweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbnow View Post
    The SUL Biner (Dutch Biner?) is for the ridge line and other uses. Not for hammock suspension.

    I could be wrong.

    Actually you are right and wrong! Dutch has come up with a couple different types of biners, the ridgeline biners and the suspension biners. You are correct the ridgeline biners either Ti or aluminum cannot be used for hammock suspensions.

    The suspension biners are sold at JRB- http://www.jacksrbetter.com/shop/dutch-biners/ FWIW I have had a set for a few years now and they are awesome, have a 400# weight rating and definitely fit the UL philosophy.
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    Titanium Dutch clip - hands down!
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    Dutch clip fan myself (though I did start with biners) and soon to be a Ti Dutch clip owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky Bear View Post
    Actually you are right and wrong! Dutch has come up with a couple different types of biners, the ridgeline biners and the suspension biners. You are correct the ridgeline biners either Ti or aluminum cannot be used for hammock suspensions.

    The suspension biners are sold at JRB- http://www.jacksrbetter.com/shop/dutch-biners/ FWIW I have had a set for a few years now and they are awesome, have a 400# weight rating and definitely fit the UL philosophy.

    thanks for the clarification.
    I was going by the products sold on Dutch's site and didnt see any suspension type Biners. ( because they were hiding on JRB's website)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky Bear View Post
    ...The suspension biners are sold at JRB- http://www.jacksrbetter.com/shop/dutch-biners/ FWIW I have had a set for a few years now and they are awesome, have a 400# weight rating and definitely fit the UL philosophy.
    FWIW...I asked and Dutch explained to me that he rates the suspension biners at 1000# (in the way biners are normally rated) while JRB rates them for a 400# load in the hammock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner76 View Post
    Don't tell Dutch that I have been using the Dutch Clips for several years and I weigh 275-285.
    I love my Dutch Clips and I too use aluminum and weigh 265 plus
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbnow View Post
    thanks for the clarification.
    I was going by the products sold on Dutch's site and didnt see any suspension type Biners. ( because they were hiding on JRB's website)

    All good yea Dutch has little metal goodness everywhere, glad I could help.

    Quote Originally Posted by gmcttr View Post
    FWIW...I asked and Dutch explained to me that he rates the suspension biners at 1000# (in the way biners are normally rated) while JRB rates them for a 400# load in the hammock.
    Yea I knew this but only post what the seller has listed as I don't want to mess with others safety, and I think thats what the Jacks are doing as well.
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    I've purchased numerous pairs of aluminum Dutch clips, so that I have a set for each hammock, and some of which I've given to others to help them get setup, and they have worked flawlessly. I think they're my favorite piece of Dutchware, although the tarp flyz and Dutch hooks are pretty sweet too. Not to mention the ridgeline biners, etc., etc.
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    These Dutchware threads always cost me money, I have successfully resisted Dutch clips.....until now! There's a set winging its way to me in the UK for the seriously low shipping cost of $3. Thanks Dutch.

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