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    Quote Originally Posted by affreeman View Post
    I find the "coyote brown" or whatever they call it that Hennessy uses almost invisible. I've actually struggled to find my hammock in the woods a couple of times coming back from getting water in the evening.
    +1 coyote brown is a versatile base color with other techniques it works well on varied environs. I have yet to find a truly universal camo but this isn't bad.

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    Recently, someone posted pics where they RIT dyed their tarp. I believe they used two or three colors in the process. It seemed to have favorable responses. I don't know if there was a longevity report to see how it weathered - pun intended - the exposure to the elements. Maybe someone can track the thread down and holler at the OP.

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    That may have been me. the threat is here:
    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=55328

    It seemed to wear well. I had switched over to a painted tyvek tarp for the summer. I was just about to break out the the 12x12 dyed tarp for winter. But I can't find it! If I can find it I will up date my thread and let everyone know how it is holding up. Most importantly, if it is still watertight.

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    The best camoflauge would be, as others said, using natural cover. The color really won't matter, as you have 2 things going against you; horizontal straight lines, and a solid object against the background.

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    Just got this in the mail today. Ordered 10yds X 60" wide. That will be enough for my cat cut tarp. It's finally time for a "proper" hammock tarp.
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    This has me thinking, What would you pay for stealth hammocking?

    How about... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=JKPVQal851U...If I only had a tarp like this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floridahanger View Post
    This has me thinking, What would you pay for stealth hammocking?

    How about... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=JKPVQal851U...If I only had a tarp like this...
    But the noise from the running generator for the projector would give you away.

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    It has been hinted at here, but never clearly stated;
    Camouflage is only effective in small patterns, and on multi-planed surfaces.

    The various militaries around the world have conducted several multi-million dollar studies on the topic of camouflage and camouflaging.
    The sole purpose of a visual camouflage is to confuse the brain.

    Interesting note: The human brain is preprogramed to automatically identify the shape of the human body. (hence the need to camouflage or confuse)

    Lots of money has also been spent trying to find ways to camouflage large equipment. Predominantly speaking, the result of these studies and tests have been that an environmentally neutral solid color is sufficient. This is because the human brain doesn't expect to see, and therefore 'ignores' these neutral colors from it's image scan. As presented several times before, distance helps, but even the wrong pattern can stand out at any distance. Even the right 'pattern' becomes visible if it is too repeatitive across too small of a distance (as is the case with large equipment and/or unnatural shapes).
    This is also just as true with the human body, again, because the brain is programed to "see" that "human pattern" under any circumstance -

    Environmentally neutral camouflaging large unnatural shapes is difficult if you have the wrong color, wrong lighting and/or visibility. I've known of folks being completely unseen trailside with a (slightly faded)blaze orange tarp simply because it was in the middle of Fall and the true environmentally neutral color was a bright yellow/orange/red. Likewise, I've hidden vehicles in the wide open (but backed up against the treeline) with nothing more than a OD Green netting (designed for equipment/vehicles), simply because the position of my observers was such that the outline of the vehicle was not visible against the treeline.

    Another aspect of camouflaging is IR (infrared) image distortion, which simply means that rather than confusing the brain, you 'confuse' or distort the IR 'image' of an object. Every thing on this planet has an IR signature, trees, rocks, water, humans, flora, fauna, etc. Certain types of camouflage is designed to project different IR signatures per section of material (ie, brown has one signature, green another, grey yet another, etc.) place them all together and in a pattern and you quickly distort the IR signature of an entity.

    Basically this all boils down to one thing, to effectively hide in any area you will need to use several different tactics and have environmentally neutral colors for each environment you find yourself in. Position, location and environmentally neutral projections (color, lighting and shading) are all necessary and important.

    But simply put, large objects hide better behind solid colors
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    Bingo!

    Quote Originally Posted by zugcat View Post
    That may have been me. the threat is here:
    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=55328

    It seemed to wear well. I had switched over to a painted tyvek tarp for the summer. I was just about to break out the the 12x12 dyed tarp for winter. But I can't find it! If I can find it I will up date my thread and let everyone know how it is holding up. Most importantly, if it is still watertight.
    Thanks for hopping into the thread. Your tarp is the one I was thinking of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beast 71 View Post
    ... if the repeat is too small you start to get patterns that will draw the eye and that defeats the purpose of camo in the first place. ...
    Right you are and that has prevented me from purchasing some camo tarps in the past.
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