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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaHanger View Post
    Can you write on that white? You could label your head and foot ends. Or use different color shrink tubing on each end to depict which end is which.
    I used a lighter as the heat source since I don't have a hot air gun. The white didn't stay white for long despite trying to be really careful and waving it through the flame. Also, I was used pieces that were about 1/2 an inch long so there wasn't much room to write once it shrunk.
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    Good idea, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob In AL View Post
    I used a lighter as the heat source since I don't have a hot air gun. The white didn't stay white for long despite trying to be really careful and waving it through the flame. Also, I was used pieces that were about 1/2 an inch long so there wasn't much room to write once it shrunk.
    Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Heat shrink always gets an ugly sooty stain on it when you shrink it. I'm sure it's very apparent on the white. Maybe try clear heat shrink? I just melt my amsteel ends. HYOH!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob In AL View Post
    I used a lighter as the heat source since I don't have a hot air gun. The white didn't stay white for long despite trying to be really careful and waving it through the flame....
    Try holding it beside the flame instead of over it.

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    it would take some time, but you could us thread to whip the ends. i have used this many times and if you do it correctly it will hole for a long time. i used to use this for the rigging for my boat. it woudl get wet all the time, but it never came apart.
    Hops

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pipsissewa View Post
    Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Heat shrink always gets an ugly sooty stain on it when you shrink it. I'm sure it's very apparent on the white. Maybe try clear heat shrink? I just melt my amsteel ends. HYOH!!!
    Pips, all I got when I tried to melt the ends was a ball of hot gooey mess that looked terrible and didn't seem to hold together very well but that was using a match, not doing it correctly with a hot knife (which I don't have).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob In AL View Post
    I guess I'm either A) lazy, or B) lacking in the confidence to try splicing. After looking at numerous videos and the step-by-step photo instructions located on this forum it just looks like something more complicated than I feel comfortable attempting.
    If you're not splicing Amsteel, then what are you doing with it, tying knots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvrSurfr View Post
    If you're not splicing Amsteel, then what are you doing with it, tying knots?
    Yes, and they seem to hold quite well given the difficulty I had untying them after being under a load. Currently there are only 4 in the system, 2 double water knots in the loops at either end of the hammock and one at either end where my SLS secures to the tree straps. So far no problems despite how "slippery" Amsteel is. Next setup I'll take some detailed photos and post them. Pictures being worth 1000 words and all, seeing will be more understandable than reading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob In AL View Post
    Yes, and they seem to hold quite well given the difficulty I had untying them after being under a load. Currently there are only 4 in the system, 2 double water knots in the loops at either end of the hammock and one at either end where my SLS secures to the tree straps. So far no problems despite how "slippery" Amsteel is. Next setup I'll take some detailed photos and post them. Pictures being worth 1000 words and all, seeing will be more understandable than reading.
    I hope you're not a big fella. Knots severely reduce the rope's breaking strength by up to 50 percent. So your 7/64 Amsteel's breaking strength goes from 1600 to 800 lbs., less than Dynaglide, while your 1/8" Amsteel goes from 2500 lbs. to 1,250 lbs.

    Most folks on the forum recommend a 5 to 1 safety ratio, so using that guideline your knotted Amsteel should only be used for someone weighing 160 lbs. or less, while 1/8" Amsteel should not be used by anyone over 250 lbs.

    Bottom line: The manufacturer, Samson Rope, recommends a splice as the best way to maintain Amsteel's strength, so you're ignoring the manufacturer's recommendation at your own risk.
    Last edited by SilvrSurfr; 11-28-2012 at 11:48.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pipsissewa View Post
    Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Heat shrink always gets an ugly sooty stain on it when you shrink it. I'm sure it's very apparent on the white. Maybe try clear heat shrink? I just melt my amsteel ends. HYOH!!!
    Try not using flame, but a heat gun or hair dryer.
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