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    0 UQ overkill for three season?

    I tend to sleep on the colder side, and there have been nights that have dropped into the low 30's in September and I've gotten a tad chilly.

    I also use a 30 quilt from Zpacks - which keeps me warm enough. But I seem to suffer underneath.

    Any advice would be appreciated.

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    If an UQ is two warm you can always vent the biggest penalty is the weight you have to carry. So a zero UQ in 3 Season would certainly work if you get to warm just loosen it up a bit to vent it.
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    It's been my experience that too much insulation underneath is not a problem. However with too much top insulation, you'll need to vent, etc.

    I forget who made the analogy once here on HF about how we change the top covers on our beds at home with the seasons but the mattress under us is the same.

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    I did a 30 day hike in June and July with a 0deg UQ. There were only three nights I slid it off to the side. I'm also a cold sleeper and I say go for it. It may be more than you need but then just call it a luxury item. When it rained for three days and most were cold and miserable, I was in heaven.
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    I would say if your close to your comfort zone now and just need a little more heat why now get an UQ protector from 2QZQ. Good piece of kit to have and it seems to add a little bit of warmth. Nothing wrong with another quilt tho.

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    I'm also a cold sleeper and my 0F Crowsnest (Phoenix) works great for 3 seasons--Spring, Fall and Winter. I often couple it with a Shamu IX UQ in winter--the extra 14 oz of the Shamu is worth it to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbiraman View Post
    I would say if your close to your comfort zone now and just need a little more heat why now get an UQ protector from 2QZQ. Good piece of kit to have and it seems to add a little bit of warmth. Nothing wrong with another quilt tho.

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    Thanks for the recommendation, Bill. May I ask, if i only wanted a little more insulation rather than a full-blown VBL solution, would you suggest the breathable ripstop version over the silnylon?

    Additionally, I have a sleeping bag liner - would this also provide the added warmth if I choose to just continue hanging with my 30'F TQ instead of using a 0'F TQ? Trying to consider extra cost of a new zero TQ vs using what I already own.

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    My only underquilt I have is a 0 degree Phoenix. I've used it year around in MN, and other than the weight penalty it works well. In the summer I just vent it or pop it off to the side if it's too warm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hang_time View Post
    Thanks for the recommendation, Bill. May I ask, if i only wanted a little more insulation rather than a full-blown VBL solution, would you suggest the breathable ripstop version over the silnylon?

    Additionally, I have a sleeping bag liner - would this also provide the added warmth if I choose to just continue hanging with my 30'F TQ instead of using a 0'F TQ? Trying to consider extra cost of a new zero TQ vs using what I already own.
    The breathable ripstop is the UQP i have. It does seem to make things a bit warmer. Whether that is because of an added air barrier or stopping wind from robbing the UQ i don't know. Of course it keeps moisture off your quilt as well. Its kind of become a standard piece of kit for me.
    Sleeping bag liner. I would think it would help but you'd have to test it and see. Some folks have added a space blanket as well between the UQ and hammock and that seem to add something but i haven't tried that.

    hope that helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbiraman View Post
    The breathable ripstop is the UQP i have. It does seem to make things a bit warmer. Whether that is because of an added air barrier or stopping wind from robbing the UQ i don't know. Of course it keeps moisture off your quilt as well. Its kind of become a standard piece of kit for me.
    Sleeping bag liner. I would think it would help but you'd have to test it and see. Some folks have added a space blanket as well between the UQ and hammock and that seem to add something but i haven't tried that.

    hope that helps

    bill
    I'll pick up the ripstop version, Bill.

    I bought the sock from Warbonnet, and while it certainly added some much needed protection when hanging close to the ridgeline, it was a pain in the *** to keep setting up - and just too big for my needs. I may sell it on here at some point.

    I tried the space blanket VBL once and my back was wet through the entire night - ixnay on the anketblay.

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