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    I checked my local Ace Hardware store as well as another small hardware store and at both places they told me they had never heard of Barge Cement. You might try somewhere like Lowe's or Home Depot.

    You can get it here for 4.86 shipped. It was $6-7 for the same size tube at the shoe repair shop.
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    Is this stuff similar to barge cement?
    http://www.weplay.com/Shoe/Goo/

    used it a few times in my youth when I skateboarded, I was under the impression it was easily obtainable in the states, if so it could be a useful alternative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drop View Post
    Is this stuff similar to barge cement?
    http://www.weplay.com/Shoe/Goo/

    used it a few times in my youth when I skateboarded, I was under the impression it was easily obtainable in the states, if so it could be a useful alternative.
    it's not the same stuff, but i couldn't tell you the differences.
    but i have herd good reports about people using shoe goo to repair sneakers & boots for long hikes.
    might be worth comparing it's holding ability on ccf, velcro, etc, against barge cement.
    backpackinggeartests.org might be a good place to check for reviews on both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowhike View Post
    it's not the same stuff, but i couldn't tell you the differences.
    but i have herd good reports about people using shoe goo to repair sneakers & boots for long hikes.
    might be worth comparing it's holding ability on ccf, velcro, etc, against barge cement.
    backpackinggeartests.org might be a good place to check for reviews on both.
    I've personally had problems with Shoe Goo on SHOES....so I don't think I'd try it on anything else
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbishop351 View Post
    I've personally had problems with Shoe Goo on SHOES....so I don't think I'd try it on anything else
    well there's one report already!
    since the people are using barge cement on the BPL.com staff, i believe i'd probably go w/ that... unless you just want to do some testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeDee View Post
    Off the top of my head so to speak:

    My only question would be what do you use to attach the velcro to the ccf pad?

    Glue or sew it? In my experience, glue "ages", hardens and cracks, especially when exposed to varying temperatures and humidity levels. Probably not all glues. The glue would have to be flexible when set, otherwise you might have hard spots that could prove to be uncomfortable after laying on them for hours. Some of the modern adhesives or double sided tapes like carpet tape might work. Some of those tend to dry and lose their adhesion. Some research would have to be done on that. Sewing would avoid those difficulties, but I don't know how well the ccf pad would hold up to a line of stitches. Might that introduce a weakness that could tear? Any weakness introduced into the pad would be aggravated by separating the velcro - it takes quite a bit of force to pull the hooks and loops apart. Over time any weakness would lead to breakdown of the pad. The structure of the pad would have to be stronger than the force required to separate the velcro, otherwise you would simply pull the pad apart instead of the velcro.

    It is similar in concept to the SPE, but without the ripstop sleeve which would save about 3.5 oz for the SPE. Adding to the head and foot ends cannot be done with the SPE, at least not without major modifications to that design.
    Neoprene glue would work very well. Divers use it to repare dive suits. It stays very flexible and obviously works well in wet conditions.

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